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Re: PHP 8

#4

Post by cstuder »

Apparently some of the deprecations will make this the most backward compatibility breaking version jump of PHP since V4 to V5. (Read a german interview here: https://www.heise.de/news/PHP-8-im-Experten-Check-Der-erwart...)

There's a long report on Wordpress and PHP 8 and it's not pretty: https://developer.yoast.com/blog/the-2020-wordpress-and-php-...

Re: PHP 8

#5

Post by laszlokorte »

Php was my first language I learned 15 years ago. On that way I really started to hate it because of all it's quirks. Many of those have been fixed and nowadays I really enjoy it again and it's my goto language for any web project.

It really hits a pragmatic sweetspot. It's really easy to deploy and frameworks like symfony give you all the power like rails but without the magic.

Re: PHP 8

#6

Post by sleavey »

> 0 == 'foobar' // true

That's PHP7 behaviour that's updated in 8 to return false. I'm not a PHP basher, I really like it these days, but why the heck was that example ever evaluating to true?

Re: PHP 8

#7

Post by tyingq »

cstuder wrote: post #4

Apparently some of the deprecations will make this the most backward compatibility breaking version jump of PHP since V4 to V5. (Read a german interview here: https://www.heise.de/news/PHP-8-im-Experten-Check-Der-erwart... ) There's a long report on Wordpress and PHP 8 and it's not pretty: https://developer.yoast.com/blog/the-2020-wordpress-and-php-...

"There's a long report on Wordpress and PHP 8 and it's not pretty"

I wonder if that's somewhat on purpose. Part of the remaining stigma with PHP is that people cite bad PHP examples from WP.

Re: PHP 8

#8

Post by muglug »

cstuder wrote: post #4

Apparently some of the deprecations will make this the most backward compatibility breaking version jump of PHP since V4 to V5. (Read a german interview here: https://www.heise.de/news/PHP-8-im-Experten-Check-Der-erwart... ) There's a long report on Wordpress and PHP 8 and it's not pretty: https://developer.yoast.com/blog/the-2020-wordpress-and-php-...

> There's a long report on Wordpress and PHP 8 and it's not pretty

This is an awkward side-effect of WordPress core team largely neglecting PHP code quality issues for the last decade or so. With good reason – improving such a large codebase is a massive, mostly-thankless task.

Re: PHP 8

#9

Post by belst »

sleavey wrote: post #6

> 0 == 'foobar' // true That's PHP7 behaviour that's updated in 8 to return false. I'm not a PHP basher, I really like it these days, but why the heck was that example ever evaluating to true?

because (int)'foobar' is 0

Re: PHP 8

#10

Post by nkuttler »

sleavey wrote: post #6

> 0 == 'foobar' // true That's PHP7 behaviour that's updated in 8 to return false. I'm not a PHP basher, I really like it these days, but why the heck was that example ever evaluating to true?

Just a guess, but casting a string that's not a number to int would give you zero?
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