Vivaldi Browser Introduces Vivaldi Mail, Calendar and RSS Technical Previews
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Re: Vivaldi Browser Introduces Vivaldi Mail, Calendar and RSS Technical Previews
#2Great to see a browser integrating feed reader at a time when popular websites are removing support for RSS/Atom feeds. Hope others will follow suit.
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#3It's great to have mail and calendar alternatives.
But vivaldi's user interface feels very slow and much slower and heavier than all the other browsers. I tried multiple times. I just can't get used to it.
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#4Great to see a browser integrating feed reader at a time when popular websites are removing support for RSS/Atom feeds. Hope others will follow suit.
Agree. I like feed reader over Social Media style feed a lot.
Decentralized, Read individual feeds separately or grouped together.
I use The Old Reader since I don't want to be stuck with one browser.
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#5I love the web panel feature they offer, wish you could run extensions on them though
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#6I'd switch to Vivaldi instantly if they dumped Chromium / Blink and the browser didn't contact Google every time it starts.
Mozilla's short-term vision in not offering an easy to use standalone Gecko rendering engine (to prevent others from making competing browsers using Gecko) is a major factor on why Chrome and Chromium browsers rules the roost today. And Firefox keeps losing its market share. It's a good example of greed corrupting open source philosophy. (They seem to have shortsightedly realised this for mobile platforms with GeckoView).
In choosing Chromium / Blink Vivaldi has chosen to sacrifice all the philosophy of the old Opera browser - creating an innovative, blazing fast browser without being a resource hog.
We need more Webkit and Gecko based browsers.
Re: Vivaldi Browser Introduces Vivaldi Mail, Calendar and RSS Technical Previews
#7It's great to have mail and calendar alternatives. But vivaldi's user interface feels very slow and much slower and heavier than all the other browsers. I tried multiple times. I just can't get used to it.
For reference to what slow user interface means I did some comparisons to Chrome and best case scenario (cloning super light 404 pages) Opening tabs is ~5-20x slower, while closing tabs is over 1000x slower. Closing tabs is so slow you can actually see them closing one at a time (after selecting close all tabs). Vivaldi UI is written in javascript (react) and runs as blocking single thread - Firing slow operation like closing a tab means UI freezes and stops accepting new commands for up to one second. Going fullscreen on Youtube can also take over one second.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uCA2qIIG1M
>going full-screen on YT: over 1 second
>returning from full-screen on YT: over 1.2 seconds
>opening Tab: 700 millisecond, 1.75 seconds, 3.453 seconds, 6.078 seconds, 7.734 seconds
>opening Tab totals: 0.700-7.7 seconds
>closing Tab: 1.468 seconds, 2.407 seconds, infinity because browser lost the Click event, 968 millisecond, 1.390 seconds, infinity, 700 millisecond
>closing Tab totals: 0.7-2.4 seconds or infinity if you aren't lucky
>time you have to wait after opening few tabs in background for the page to regaining usability: 11 seconds!
All of that on 4GHz Haswell.
Vivaldi is Gmail levels slow, new Youtube levels slow. Remember kids, dont do UI in javascript.