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Mask Mandates Work to Slow Spread of Coronavirus, Kansas Study Finds

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Re: Mask Mandates Work to Slow Spread of Coronavirus, Kansas Study Finds

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Why is this controversial? There is a clear and obvious mechanism here.

The anti-mask arguments I've seen amount to the argument that masks don't work perfectly. Of course they don't. They reduce transmission, and that's the point. It's a numbers game where the goal is to keep the virus's R factor under 1.0.

Re: Mask Mandates Work to Slow Spread of Coronavirus, Kansas Study Finds

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Social influencing is more important. Who is "popular" in Kansas? I'm not a native Kansasian...who could spread the word that they are using a mask for the duration of THIS pandemic. (there will be another!)

The phrase, "Studies show ..." seems to me to be a more significant human invention, to motivate immediate behavior, than the actual technical studies themselves.

Just slap "Studies show" on the front of any believable collection of words which could be reasonably determined to be "common sense", and watch the behaviors trend.

Re: Mask Mandates Work to Slow Spread of Coronavirus, Kansas Study Finds

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post #2

Why is this controversial? There is a clear and obvious mechanism here. The anti-mask arguments I've seen amount to the argument that masks don't work perfectly. Of course they don't. They reduce transmission, and that's the point. It's a numbers game where the goal is to keep the virus's R factor under 1.0.

https://i.redd.it/vfij6vxnobu51.png

Feel free to create an updated version if you want.

Re: Mask Mandates Work to Slow Spread of Coronavirus, Kansas Study Finds

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post #2

Why is this controversial? There is a clear and obvious mechanism here. The anti-mask arguments I've seen amount to the argument that masks don't work perfectly. Of course they don't. They reduce transmission, and that's the point. It's a numbers game where the goal is to keep the virus's R factor under 1.0.

https://i.redd.it/vfij6vxnobu51.png Feel free to create an updated version if you want.

This is like "the house is still on fire, so obviously dousing it with water isn't helping..."

What would it be without the mandate?

Re: Mask Mandates Work to Slow Spread of Coronavirus, Kansas Study Finds

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post #2

Why is this controversial? There is a clear and obvious mechanism here. The anti-mask arguments I've seen amount to the argument that masks don't work perfectly. Of course they don't. They reduce transmission, and that's the point. It's a numbers game where the goal is to keep the virus's R factor under 1.0.

https://i.redd.it/vfij6vxnobu51.png Feel free to create an updated version if you want.

Your chart ends in September - two months ago.

Here's what it looks like now: https://imgur.com/a/T3QjGbx

You've demonstrated that mitigation efforts take time to impact case counts, which makes a lot of sense given things like incubation periods.

Re: Mask Mandates Work to Slow Spread of Coronavirus, Kansas Study Finds

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post #3

Social influencing is more important. Who is "popular" in Kansas? I'm not a native Kansasian...who could spread the word that they are using a mask for the duration of THIS pandemic. (there will be another!) The phrase, "Studies show ..." seems to me to be a more significant human invention, to motivate immediate behavior, than the actual technical studies themselves. Just slap "Studies show" on the front of any beli…

Unfortunately "investigative journalists" like Sharyl Attkisson are respected and of influence to the right's audience. She is posting and continues to post anti-mask studies as "proof" that masks do not work. This type of thing justifies more and more anti-mask activity because she is someone who is "unbiased" and getting the "facts". Only half the facts don't equate to the whole picture, and Chinese cloth masks you can read through are far different than dual cloth masks or respirators.

TL;DR: Not enough independent media is reporting all the facts. Simply having reputable people link to and explain the mask particulate logarithmic analysis would go a long way: https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/6/36/eabd3083

Re: Mask Mandates Work to Slow Spread of Coronavirus, Kansas Study Finds

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://i.redd.it/vfij6vxnobu51.png Feel free to create an updated version if you want.

This is like "the house is still on fire, so obviously dousing it with water isn't helping..." What would it be without the mandate?

I think that would depend on the motive of the person doesn’t the analysis. Clearly science is having a fit at the moment between those who want a mandate and those who don’t. It’s getting really hard to trust the motives of these groups.

Re: Mask Mandates Work to Slow Spread of Coronavirus, Kansas Study Finds

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://i.redd.it/vfij6vxnobu51.png Feel free to create an updated version if you want.

This is like "the house is still on fire, so obviously dousing it with water isn't helping..." What would it be without the mandate?

I guess the argument is that the mandate should have change the trend.
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