FTC commissioner met with Apple regarding Facebook’s iOS 14 complaints
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FTC commissioner met with Apple regarding Facebook’s iOS 14 complaints
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Re: FTC commissioner met with Apple regarding Facebook’s iOS 14 complaints
#2Facebook built it’s business on tracking users. It seems that’s solely their choice, only they reap the rewards and suffer the consequences of that choice. If users are fine with it the impact shouldn’t be horrible. If they aren’t, well, why does Apple or users have any obligation to care about the impact? Why is this a valid complaint?
Re: FTC commissioner met with Apple regarding Facebook’s iOS 14 complaints
#3I don’t think Facebook has really any ground to stand on when the choice is being given to the user. AdTech has been saying forever that “people want personalized ads” to justify data collection. If they’re right then obviously there’s nothing to worry about.
Re: FTC commissioner met with Apple regarding Facebook’s iOS 14 complaints
#4Facebook's concept of informed consent is a cynical joke, and we can only laud companies and governments that rein in on their bordeline-illegal practices.
I've recently signed up for Facebook to use Wit.ai, and have gone through account settings to lock down the account as much as possible. It took me about an hour to set everything to private in this new account, and I'm still not sure what would happen if I start posting on their platform.
The settings page is not the only place that needs to be checked if you mind your privacy, there will be a myriad of configuration options and barely discoverable controls that appear in different places on your profile, and remain hidden until you submit further content.
Re: FTC commissioner met with Apple regarding Facebook’s iOS 14 complaints
#5Facebook built it’s business on tracking users. It seems that’s solely their choice, only they reap the rewards and suffer the consequences of that choice. If users are fine with it the impact shouldn’t be horrible. If they aren’t, well, why does Apple or users have any obligation to care about the impact? Why is this a valid complaint?
You explained it, its Facebook's only choice.
Facebook didn't make a compelling argument, only that they felt obligated to attempt to use all available remedies to retain their advertisers and show their shareholders that they tried. It is a ridiculous use of public resources, but the FTC didn't give any indication that is was a valid complaint. Facebook didn't make an argument, only an observation that the feature would hurt their revenue. Kind of like "by the way it would be nice if you found some impropriety in how they rolled this out, we aren't aware of one, but would be adversely affected whether its all above board or not, okay thats all we got moving on".
Re: FTC commissioner met with Apple regarding Facebook’s iOS 14 complaints
#6What business does FTC has with internet advertising?
Re: FTC commissioner met with Apple regarding Facebook’s iOS 14 complaints
#7What business does FTC has with internet advertising?
In the United States, the Federal Trade Commission's (FTC) Bureau of Consumer Protection is the governmental watchdog for consumer abuse from advertising and marketing (among many other concerns).
Re: FTC commissioner met with Apple regarding Facebook’s iOS 14 complaints
#8Facebook built it’s business on tracking users. It seems that’s solely their choice, only they reap the rewards and suffer the consequences of that choice. If users are fine with it the impact shouldn’t be horrible. If they aren’t, well, why does Apple or users have any obligation to care about the impact? Why is this a valid complaint?
> If users are fine with it the impact shouldn’t be horrible.
Exactly. So when Apple gives users choice, and users are fine with it, this won't impact Facebook at all.
Re: FTC commissioner met with Apple regarding Facebook’s iOS 14 complaints
#9What business does FTC has with internet advertising?
They regulate it in the US.
Re: FTC commissioner met with Apple regarding Facebook’s iOS 14 complaints
#10I was recently met with a new popup in the Instagram app, asking me to allow it to track me across applications. I actually said yes, because I get great targeted ads in Instagram and Facebook. I've clicked on multiple ads and actually even made purchases of things that I didn't know about that looked interesting.
But the important part is that I do it willingly. I'm glad they were forced to ask -- not everyone is ok with that kind of tracking, and that's the whole point. I'm totally with Apple on this one. Give people choice.
I made my choice, and everyone else should get to make theirs too.