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California Voters Exempt Uber, Lyft, DoorDash from Having to Reclassify Drivers

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Re: California Voters Exempt Uber, Lyft, DoorDash from Having to Reclassify Drivers

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A special exception for a narrow set of companies with an established history of abhorrent behaviour with requires a 7/8ths vote to overturn/modify and then pretending that this is something the legislature can update.

It's hard for me to not feel disappointed with the public on this one.

Re: California Voters Exempt Uber, Lyft, DoorDash from Having to Reclassify Drivers

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A special exception for a narrow set of companies with an established history of abhorrent behaviour with requires a 7/8ths vote to overturn/modify and then pretending that this is something the legislature can update. It's hard for me to not feel disappointed with the public on this one.

My understanding is that a ballot measure must be modified only by ballot measure. Adding in a 7/8ths clause is a way of allowing, with difficulty, the legislature to change things.

Re: California Voters Exempt Uber, Lyft, DoorDash from Having to Reclassify Drivers

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A special exception for a narrow set of companies with an established history of abhorrent behaviour with requires a 7/8ths vote to overturn/modify and then pretending that this is something the legislature can update. It's hard for me to not feel disappointed with the public on this one.

It's only a special exception of they don't repeal AB5!

Re: California Voters Exempt Uber, Lyft, DoorDash from Having to Reclassify Drivers

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A special exception for a narrow set of companies with an established history of abhorrent behaviour with requires a 7/8ths vote to overturn/modify and then pretending that this is something the legislature can update. It's hard for me to not feel disappointed with the public on this one.

The only thing worse than democracy is all the other -cracies.

58-42 is a wide margin. Ideally the government shouldn't be legislating stuff which has only 40% support.

Re: California Voters Exempt Uber, Lyft, DoorDash from Having to Reclassify Drivers

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post #2

A special exception for a narrow set of companies with an established history of abhorrent behaviour with requires a 7/8ths vote to overturn/modify and then pretending that this is something the legislature can update. It's hard for me to not feel disappointed with the public on this one.

> It's hard for me to not feel disappointed with the public on this one.

Well I'm sure you'll get over it when you consider that overreach and imperfect laws don't operate in a vacuum.

Re: California Voters Exempt Uber, Lyft, DoorDash from Having to Reclassify Drivers

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A special exception for a narrow set of companies with an established history of abhorrent behaviour with requires a 7/8ths vote to overturn/modify and then pretending that this is something the legislature can update. It's hard for me to not feel disappointed with the public on this one.

Most Californian voters are pretty disappointing. There was one a few years back that basically eliminated paid breaks and meals for EMTs, and there are probably a string of other bad decisions going back as far as you care to look.

Re: California Voters Exempt Uber, Lyft, DoorDash from Having to Reclassify Drivers

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I have always felt that more direct democracy such as propositions is a more advanced way to operate.

But this decision has made me complete reconsider it.

I almost want there to be some kind of test to see how informed people are that somehow weights their votes. It could just be a short multiple quiz with questions submitted by each side or made by a third party and approved by each side. Just to verify that people actually know what they are voting on and are not just making some default decision based on whichever ad they saw or whatever.

Re: California Voters Exempt Uber, Lyft, DoorDash from Having to Reclassify Drivers

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I have always felt that more direct democracy such as propositions is a more advanced way to operate. But this decision has made me complete reconsider it. I almost want there to be some kind of test to see how informed people are that somehow weights their votes. It could just be a short multiple quiz with questions submitted by each side or made by a third party and approved by each side. Just to verify that people…

> But this decision has made me complete reconsider it.

Please don't. This was not an example of direct democracy. Direct democracy is more than simply casting your vote once in a while.

A good start could be to address this issue:

> The companies, along with Postmates Inc. and Instacart Inc., collectively contributed around $200 million to support Proposition 22

edit: Also, I find this approach to direct democracy quite interesting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens%27_assembly

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