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Covid: Belgian doctors with coronavirus asked to keep working

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Re: Covid: Belgian doctors with coronavirus asked to keep working

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The infections are spiking but for example in Madrid the number of hospital beds with covid patients is holding steady at 19% (as of October 23). https://www.epdata.es/datos/evolucion-coronavirus-cada-comun...

So many people are getting ill but a lot less are ending up in hospital than March-April. I find the discussion about number of cases to be a distraction.

Re: Covid: Belgian doctors with coronavirus asked to keep working

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The infections are spiking but for example in Madrid the number of hospital beds with covid patients is holding steady at 19% (as of October 23). https://www.epdata.es/datos/evolucion-coronavirus-cada-comun... So many people are getting ill but a lot less are ending up in hospital than March-April. I find the discussion about number of cases to be a distraction.

not sure why you're being downvoted. The situation right now is much better than it was during the first wave. (https://imgur.com/nDgb7d7, representative of most countries)

Re: Covid: Belgian doctors with coronavirus asked to keep working

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The infections are spiking but for example in Madrid the number of hospital beds with covid patients is holding steady at 19% (as of October 23). https://www.epdata.es/datos/evolucion-coronavirus-cada-comun... So many people are getting ill but a lot less are ending up in hospital than March-April. I find the discussion about number of cases to be a distraction.

not sure why you're being downvoted. The situation right now is much better than it was during the first wave. ( https://imgur.com/nDgb7d7 , representative of most countries)

People don't like information that contradicts their convictions. You question the "narrative" and they get upset. Somehow epidemiology became a political question I guess in the us.

Re: Covid: Belgian doctors with coronavirus asked to keep working

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not sure why you're being downvoted. The situation right now is much better than it was during the first wave. ( https://imgur.com/nDgb7d7 , representative of most countries)

People don't like information that contradicts their convictions. You question the "narrative" and they get upset. Somehow epidemiology became a political question I guess in the us.

Well, it's an election year, unfortunately.

Re: Covid: Belgian doctors with coronavirus asked to keep working

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

People don't like information that contradicts their convictions. You question the "narrative" and they get upset. Somehow epidemiology became a political question I guess in the us.

Well, it's an election year, unfortunately.

Not in the rest of the world, but it still looks similar. I guess it is just incompetent politicians and bureaucrats being overwhelmed by things.

Re: Covid: Belgian doctors with coronavirus asked to keep working

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The infections are spiking but for example in Madrid the number of hospital beds with covid patients is holding steady at 19% (as of October 23). https://www.epdata.es/datos/evolucion-coronavirus-cada-comun... So many people are getting ill but a lot less are ending up in hospital than March-April. I find the discussion about number of cases to be a distraction.

The pipeline is cases -> hospitalizations -> deaths, with a week or 2-weeks between each stage.

Only 20% of cases turn into hospitalizations, and only a small percentage of hospitalizations turn into deaths... but that's the general pipeline. The exact % changes depending on population dynamics (who gets sick, and where), but the biggest contributing factor is the number of people in the previous stage of the pipeline. (If you double cases, then a few weeks later, hospitalizations will almost certainly double).

If a case-spike happens, the idea is to make a decision BEFORE hospitalization spikes up a few weeks later. We want to be ahead of the wave, not behind it.

Re: Covid: Belgian doctors with coronavirus asked to keep working

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The infections are spiking but for example in Madrid the number of hospital beds with covid patients is holding steady at 19% (as of October 23). https://www.epdata.es/datos/evolucion-coronavirus-cada-comun... So many people are getting ill but a lot less are ending up in hospital than March-April. I find the discussion about number of cases to be a distraction.

The pipeline is cases -> hospitalizations -> deaths, with a week or 2-weeks between each stage. Only 20% of cases turn into hospitalizations, and only a small percentage of hospitalizations turn into deaths... but that's the general pipeline. The exact % changes depending on population dynamics (who gets sick, and where), but the biggest contributing factor is the number of people in the previous stage of the pipelin…

Well I'm saying the Madrid numbers are not bearing out the prognosis you are outlining. It could be younger people are getting ill and that elderly people are better isolated but it's hard to know because they don't provide deaths by age groups.

Re: Covid: Belgian doctors with coronavirus asked to keep working

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The infections are spiking but for example in Madrid the number of hospital beds with covid patients is holding steady at 19% (as of October 23). https://www.epdata.es/datos/evolucion-coronavirus-cada-comun... So many people are getting ill but a lot less are ending up in hospital than March-April. I find the discussion about number of cases to be a distraction.

The article is about hospitals filled with coronavirus patients to the point they have to turn away new patients. Did you read any of it?
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