Digital Money Across Borders: Macro-Financial Implications
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#3But I'm very scared to see what those digital wallets for CBDC will turn into. If central banks get control over money flows they can do horrible stuff:
* set a maximum limit on the amount of money you are allowed to have/save in your CBDC wallet.
* give you an x amount of money and force you to spend it (by taking the excess away at the end of the month or topping it up to a limit). This will erode all incentive to save. If forces consumption instead of preservation.
* work with a whitelist of acceptable ways to spent the money. You want to sent some money to someone who is not a legal resident/lives abroad/is on a black list for xyz reason? Though luck...
* set a "transaction" price / hidden tax on less trustworthy or less "wanted" persons or company's. Like when you want to buy liquor/a gun/give to a church you pay 5% transaction costs, but when you pay your rent the transaction costs are 0%.
* in a very real sense untraceable money is privacy and making money traceable is taking privacy away. We may not have something to hide but there is nothing I want them to see either...
Revelation 13:16,17 says "It puts under compulsion all people—the small and the great, the rich and the poor, the free and the slaves—that these should be marked, and that nobody can buy or sell except a person having the mark"Re: Digital Money Across Borders: Macro-Financial Implications
#4We already have a digital Euro/Dollar/Yen, just look at the banking app on your phone or the transactions you do with a bank or credit card. But I'm very scared to see what those digital wallets for CBDC will turn into. If central banks get control over money flows they can do horrible stuff: * set a maximum limit on the amount of money you are allowed to have/save in your CBDC wallet. * give you an x amount of money…
Going against the zeigeist again but if something gets pushed onto us for something silly like "pandemic preparedness" or "contact & trace" like 9/11 has brought onto us...that offers identity management that can be expanded into a system like this...
If that happens, can we please stop pretending like something about biology and infectious diseases has fundamentally changed because of COVID for a second and get back to our senses...
We as a global society are clearly prone to collective hysteria whether we have been brought here by a series of unfortunate events and coincidences or by malice pushing their agenda.
Science loves being proven wrong, science loves getting to the bottom of things. There is nothing wrong with worshiping science but scientist worship is a part of it. We are all humans with our egos, trouble admitting being wrong, or simply personal gain from acting a certain way. Many of us just go with things to fit in, or have a career or just to make ends meet.
Numbers can be fudged. Everyone should have the stance of "show me" before believing. And you can't just take what media shows you at the face value. Reenactments, B-roll footage, the whole thing is a lot less "real" than we are lead to believe.
It is not a pandemic if you need to be told it is a pandemic.
You are losing your rights and freedoms because people are scared.
If you were alive during 9/11, doesn't this feel eerily familiar?
Doesn't it feel exactly like it feels when the second plane hit on 9/11?
Scare me and take my rights and freedom.
Can't you see people have the same emotional reaction when you try to get people to question the official COVID narrative that you see when you try to get them to think outside the official 9/11 narrative?
We are a lot less free now than we were before 9/11. And we are not any safer.
The same is about to happen if not happening right now.
We are all being played. Open your eyes and question even the sources you trusted for years. Just because your views aligned with a source for years doesn't mean they are on your side. They can be fooled too. This isn't about intention. We are all human. We are all fallible and this is about to get worse unless we all open our eyes and stop repeating the narrative the media is feeding everyone.
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#5We already have a digital Euro/Dollar/Yen, just look at the banking app on your phone or the transactions you do with a bank or credit card. But I'm very scared to see what those digital wallets for CBDC will turn into. If central banks get control over money flows they can do horrible stuff: * set a maximum limit on the amount of money you are allowed to have/save in your CBDC wallet. * give you an x amount of money…
That is what happens already today, you just don't notice it as a consumer as the vendor pays the CC bill.
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#6We already have a digital Euro/Dollar/Yen, just look at the banking app on your phone or the transactions you do with a bank or credit card. But I'm very scared to see what those digital wallets for CBDC will turn into. If central banks get control over money flows they can do horrible stuff: * set a maximum limit on the amount of money you are allowed to have/save in your CBDC wallet. * give you an x amount of money…
that could be an interesting one for Universal Basic Income .
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#7We already have a digital Euro/Dollar/Yen, just look at the banking app on your phone or the transactions you do with a bank or credit card. But I'm very scared to see what those digital wallets for CBDC will turn into. If central banks get control over money flows they can do horrible stuff: * set a maximum limit on the amount of money you are allowed to have/save in your CBDC wallet. * give you an x amount of money…
About the whitelists? Already the case. My bank account in Portugal just got frozen 2 days ago for trying to buy crypto through Coinbase (we're talking about less than 100 EUR transaction here). This involved transferring money to an Estonian account, which according to support is "a blacklisted country" (even though it's an EU member state and an attractive European country for tech related businesses). I tried transferring money from my other EU fintech bank accounts which worked perfectly fine and almost instantly (so the blacklist excuse is bs). I still can't access my funds in that account 2 days later. Computer says no. Support can't help. I'm strongly suspecting this has nothing to do with Estonia and everything to do with banks not liking crypto.
So for everybody who wonders what problems crypto currencies are solving? Well, there ya go...
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#8Deep in the footnotes comes the contorted logic,"According to the IMF Treatment of Crypto Assets in Macroeconomic Statistics, crypto assets such as Bitcoin do not meet the definition of a financial asset—and hence currency—in macroeconomic statistics." and presumably that's what lets them off the hook, nevertheless, the ONE payment-rail that BTC fits perfectly is precisely that of international settlements between Central Banks/countries - such settlements typically involve the large-scale transfer of assets, they're not especially time-sensitive, and the transfer cost is inconsequential (and in the case of BTC negligible against the values transferred).
So I'm still left wondering: Why the aversion?
Fear? Lack of control by recognised "authorities"? Their argument that it's "too volatile" is largely untrue over the past year or two, with Bitcoin showing no greater volatility than any of the world's fiat currencies, so I doubt that's the factor at play.
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#9We already have a digital Euro/Dollar/Yen, just look at the banking app on your phone or the transactions you do with a bank or credit card. But I'm very scared to see what those digital wallets for CBDC will turn into. If central banks get control over money flows they can do horrible stuff: * set a maximum limit on the amount of money you are allowed to have/save in your CBDC wallet. * give you an x amount of money…
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#10I find it interesting that the paper focusses on Central Bank Digital Currencies and Global Stablecoins, but pretends not to see/prefers not to deal with the elephant in the room - Bitcoin. If anything is a candidate for a potential Reserve Currency, BTC is it, imho. Deep in the footnotes comes the contorted logic," According to the IMF Treatment of Crypto Assets in Macroeconomic Statistics, crypto assets such as Bit…