Mission Protocol

#1

Post by tsax » Mon, Oct 19, 2020, 11:51 PM UTC

Re: Mission Protocol

#2

Post by woodruffw » Tue, Oct 20, 2020, 12:07 AM UTC

> But these conversations often lose sight of the main way our projects produce social good: through good work on our mission.

At the risk of being maybe a little plaintive: what happens when that mission is bad? It's not clear to this (government-funded) researcher that good (meaning quality) work, even when it's always open-sourced, translates to a good (meaning ethical) mission.

Re: Mission Protocol

#3

Post by aravindet » Tue, Oct 20, 2020, 12:09 AM UTC

There does not seem to be any text to say this is Coinbase-inspired. The FAQ does refer to Tesla's and Coinbase's corporate mission statements, but there is no claim or indication that this code of conduct is inspired by either.

Perhaps that part is commentary added by the submitter?

Re: Mission Protocol

#4

Post by donatj » Tue, Oct 20, 2020, 12:10 AM UTC

Good is purely subjective. The project by definition targets what the creators thought were good?

Re: Mission Protocol

#5

Post by zenogais » Tue, Oct 20, 2020, 12:13 AM UTC

aravindet wrote: post #3

There does not seem to be any text to say this is Coinbase-inspired. The FAQ does refer to Tesla's and Coinbase's corporate mission statements, but there is no claim or indication that this code of conduct is inspired by either. Perhaps that part is commentary added by the submitter?

But it links to the Coinbase blog post in the "Inspirations" section on the front page?

Re: Mission Protocol

#6

Post by alfalfasprout » Tue, Oct 20, 2020, 12:13 AM UTC

donatj wrote: post #4

Good is purely subjective. The project by definition targets what the creators thought were good?

This. If it wasn't "good" to someone then why does the project exist in the first place?

Re: Mission Protocol

#7

Post by paulirish » Tue, Oct 20, 2020, 12:15 AM UTC

A code of conduct template developed by someone who realllly wants to remain anonymous. This inspires trust.

Re: Mission Protocol

#8

Post by wmf » Tue, Oct 20, 2020, 12:15 AM UTC

woodruffw wrote: post #2

> But these conversations often lose sight of the main way our projects produce social good: through good work on our mission. At the risk of being maybe a little plaintive: what happens when that mission is bad ? It's not clear to this (government-funded) researcher that good (meaning quality) work, even when it's always open-sourced, translates to a good (meaning ethical) mission.

Bad missions can't be fixed by internal activism, so allowing it just wears down everyone involved.

Re: Mission Protocol

#9

Post by aravindet » Tue, Oct 20, 2020, 12:15 AM UTC

zenogais wrote: post #5

aravindet wrote: post #3

There does not seem to be any text to say this is Coinbase-inspired. The FAQ does refer to Tesla's and Coinbase's corporate mission statements, but there is no claim or indication that this code of conduct is inspired by either. Perhaps that part is commentary added by the submitter?

But it links to the Coinbase blog post in the "Inspirations" section on the front page?

Ah yes, I missed that. Thanks.

Re: Mission Protocol

#10

Post by woodruffw » Tue, Oct 20, 2020, 12:19 AM UTC

wmf wrote: post #8

woodruffw wrote: post #2

> But these conversations often lose sight of the main way our projects produce social good: through good work on our mission. At the risk of being maybe a little plaintive: what happens when that mission is bad ? It's not clear to this (government-funded) researcher that good (meaning quality) work, even when it's always open-sourced, translates to a good (meaning ethical) mission.

Bad missions can't be fixed by internal activism, so allowing it just wears down everyone involved.

> Bad companies can't be fixed by internal activism

Maybe I'm misunderstanding that you're saying, but wouldn't this imply that unionisation from within ought to necessarily always fail? It's a pretty textbook example of activism, and is generally pointed to as one of the great strengths of the American midcentury.