Automatically sending Webmentions from a static website
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Re: Automatically sending Webmentions from a static website
#2It still amazes me that people have managed to create a viable system of decentralized comments across independent, statically-generated websites. Perhaps I should heed the (humorous) warning by Ben Werdmuller here, though:
Re: Automatically sending Webmentions from a static website
#3I’ve never even heard of Webmentions. Should I have?
Re: Automatically sending Webmentions from a static website
#4I like the idea, but I wonder if I should bother: in other words, are people actually using this? Is this the new pingback, because that seemed like a good idea, too, but it never got off the ground.
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#5I like the idea, but I wonder if I should bother: in other words, are people actually using this? Is this the new pingback, because that seemed like a good idea, too, but it never got off the ground.
I helped create pingback [https://simonwillison.net/tags/pingback/], which eventually made it into WordPress and hence achieved pretty widespread distribution.
My concern here is spam. With hindsight both Pingback and Trackbacks (which Pingback was a response to) essentially became APIs fit spammers to add junk to your site. Can webmention avoid the sane fate?
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#6I like the idea, but I wonder if I should bother: in other words, are people actually using this? Is this the new pingback, because that seemed like a good idea, too, but it never got off the ground.
I’ve seen it on a number of blogs. Below a blog post, it shows who linked to it. Anyone who finishes reading the post can look at these responses, read them, follow them to their source. Does that qualify as “using this”?
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#7I like the idea, but I wonder if I should bother: in other words, are people actually using this? Is this the new pingback, because that seemed like a good idea, too, but it never got off the ground.
I’ve seen it on a number of blogs. Below a blog post, it shows who linked to it. Anyone who finishes reading the post can look at these responses, read them, follow them to their source. Does that qualify as “using this”?
Sure. What I meant was, of course both pingback and webmention are being used, but they did not give rise to the kind of decentralized conversation that I hoped they would when I learned about them. Instead we got Twitter. But I still think this is what people should be doing. I suppose I’m asking, should I use both pingback and webmention? Or just the latter? Does this replace pingback, or should I implement both?
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#8I like the idea, but I wonder if I should bother: in other words, are people actually using this? Is this the new pingback, because that seemed like a good idea, too, but it never got off the ground.
I helped create pingback [ https://simonwillison.net/tags/pingback/ ], which eventually made it into WordPress and hence achieved pretty widespread distribution. My concern here is spam. With hindsight both Pingback and Trackbacks (which Pingback was a response to) essentially became APIs fit spammers to add junk to your site. Can webmention avoid the sane fate?
I would think that because most of the sites are static, they are going to be doing some moderation before re-rendering and posting the linkbacks.
The README says that one of the steps is verification [https://github.com/converspace/webmention/blob/master/README...], but it's a little disappointing that it's essentially an "exercise left for the reader".
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#9I am more interest in the action flow then the webmention
Re: Automatically sending Webmentions from a static website
#10I implemented webmentions for my static site back around the end of 2019. My solution for receiving on my static site was to just log POSTs and review them with my eyes. Then if someone has actually sent a webmention (as opposed to pingback spam) I just use curl to respond. There's no need to have anything automated at all.
ref: "A static, manual system for receiving webmentions (and pingback) with nginx" http://superkuh.com/blog/2020-01-10-1.html