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Apple iPhone 12: The chip advance set to make smartphones smarter

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Re: Apple iPhone 12: The chip advance set to make smartphones smarter

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Post by mahkeiro »

A funny things is that we keep hearing about US only tech power, but AMSL (NL), is needed by TSMC (TW) to engrave a reference design by ARM (UK). But US is going one more time to limit EU tech by getting its hand on both ARM and AMSL as they previously did with many EU tech companies... At one point EU should realize that the US are playing the same game as the Chinese and are really not business friend.

Re: Apple iPhone 12: The chip advance set to make smartphones smarter

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Post by lnsru »

mahkeiro wrote: post #3

A funny things is that we keep hearing about US only tech power, but AMSL (NL), is needed by TSMC (TW) to engrave a reference design by ARM (UK). But US is going one more time to limit EU tech by getting its hand on both ARM and AMSL as they previously did with many EU tech companies... At one point EU should realize that the US are playing the same game as the Chinese and are really not business friend.

ARM isn’t UK company since 2016. Maybe current situation isn’t that bad and will lead to international RISC-V explosion.

Re: Apple iPhone 12: The chip advance set to make smartphones smarter

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Post by bjorn2k »

mahkeiro wrote: post #3

A funny things is that we keep hearing about US only tech power, but AMSL (NL), is needed by TSMC (TW) to engrave a reference design by ARM (UK). But US is going one more time to limit EU tech by getting its hand on both ARM and AMSL as they previously did with many EU tech companies... At one point EU should realize that the US are playing the same game as the Chinese and are really not business friend.

Also Cymer is a US company acquired by ASML (https://www.asml.com/en/company/about-asml/cymer). They provide the technology for EUV source.

Re: Apple iPhone 12: The chip advance set to make smartphones smarter

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Post by mahkeiro »

lnsru wrote: post #4
mahkeiro wrote: post #3

A funny things is that we keep hearing about US only tech power, but AMSL (NL), is needed by TSMC (TW) to engrave a reference design by ARM (UK). But US is going one more time to limit EU tech by getting its hand on both ARM and AMSL as they previously did with many EU tech companies... At one point EU should realize that the US are playing the same game as the Chinese and are really not business friend.

ARM isn’t UK company since 2016. Maybe current situation isn’t that bad and will lead to international RISC-V explosion.

Again this shareholder nationality things? (A Japanese shareholder don’t make ARM a Japanese company). Because by this metric a lot of US companies are not US... (a couple of them can even be Norwegian or Saudi despite having no presence were there shareholders resides).

Re: Apple iPhone 12: The chip advance set to make smartphones smarter

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Post by parsimo2010 »

mahkeiro wrote: post #3

A funny things is that we keep hearing about US only tech power, but AMSL (NL), is needed by TSMC (TW) to engrave a reference design by ARM (UK). But US is going one more time to limit EU tech by getting its hand on both ARM and AMSL as they previously did with many EU tech companies... At one point EU should realize that the US are playing the same game as the Chinese and are really not business friend.

The EU knows this, but they will continue to comply with US trade sanctions until they can live without the US in all areas. A giant hurdle (but not the only one) is NATO and being able to counter Russia. While NATO and the EU are separate, many countries are members of both. If the EU took a hard stance and said that they value trade with China more than the US's security complaints, the US could very well use that as an excuse to pull troops out of Europe. And if anyone thinks that doesn't matter, just know that a Russian invasion (or more likely erosion of borders) is something that terrifies EU leaders far more than missing out on sales to China.
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