2020 Had the Warmest September on Record, Data Shows
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Re: 2020 Had the Warmest September on Record, Data Shows
#2Is this not anxiety inducing for anyone else? Is that why I see these posts fall away quickly, or is news like this just expected now, and so not that interesting?
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#3Is this not anxiety inducing for anyone else? Is that why I see these posts fall away quickly, or is news like this just expected now, and so not that interesting?
I have had enough life experience to know that so much is beyond our control. We could die of a car accident tomorrow. Cancer could strike us down within the next six months.
We know the problem here. We have some solutions. We just need to act!
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#4It is distinctly unhelpful to keep trying to make people feel bad. People experiencing negative emotions are less capable of effecting positive outcomes.
It is also unhelpful to keep referring to individual points like this as illustrative. It's hypocritical and provides ammunition to climate change deniers when they say things like "But this spring was really cold!" Weather is not climate and a year over year comparison of one calendar month is not a trend.
This is exactly the kind of nonsense article I would publish if I were a climate change denier.
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#5Is this not anxiety inducing for anyone else? Is that why I see these posts fall away quickly, or is news like this just expected now, and so not that interesting?
Here’s my issue. What amount of carbon cutting would satisfy you?
If we cut by 50% and the temperature is still rising year over year do we need to cut more? How far do you want to go and how much needs to be risked Before you’re satisfied that our carbon levels are acceptable. Sorry that you feel the world isn’t following your desires and expectations but they need more than a promise that things may get better to enact policy that will dramatically alter their entire economy, way of living, and social order.
Edit: sure downvote me and throw insults. That’s a good way to promote healthy discussion.
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#6It is distinctly unhelpful to keep trying to make people feel bad. People experiencing negative emotions are less capable of effecting positive outcomes. It is also unhelpful to keep referring to individual points like this as illustrative. It's hypocritical and provides ammunition to climate change deniers when they say things like "But this spring was really cold!" Weather is not climate and a year over year compar…
> It is also unhelpful to keep referring to individual points like this as illustrative.
I don't know if you're in the US, but this is untrue here.
Our most-watched media outlet spreads climate-change denial, as does the (minority) party that has controlled our federal -- and most state -- governments for the last few years.
One of their tactics is literally to say that there is still snow, so global warming can't be real[1].
Articles like this are the counterpoints to that narrative, and there is evidence that individual data points are convincing[2] to people who are not able (or willing) to understand long-term statistical information.
1. https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2018/02/3-years-ago-...
2. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/feb/03/climate-chan...
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#7It’s hard to take NYT seriously. I do not understand why it is allowed on here. Their inherent bias and target audience (policy makers and influencers) runs counter to startup culture, innovation, and hacking. Mainstream News posted here should be apolitical if not providing divergent opinions... since this article is, respectfully, an opinion of a paid government research group and not demonstrated fact...
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#8I expected more from Covid, for it to be a miracle cure for global warming, what with planes grounded and people not in the same consumption patterns.
But no, turning off the taps or turning down the taps a tiny bit isn't going to suddenly bring a halt to warming temperatures.
Interestingly though we have some people wanting to bring emissions to a halt for climate change reasons. But, with things like Chess you have to think a few moves ahead. Has anyone thought ahead past a drastic cut in emissions? If everyone stopped consuming (as if) and temperatures still went up, how would that work out? It would be a bit like Covid where lockdowns happen but the pandemic is not brought under control, maybe just slowed down for a bit.
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#9Is this not anxiety inducing for anyone else? Is that why I see these posts fall away quickly, or is news like this just expected now, and so not that interesting?
Here’s my issue. What amount of carbon cutting would satisfy you? If we cut by 50% and the temperature is still rising year over year do we need to cut more? How far do you want to go and how much needs to be risked Before you’re satisfied that our carbon levels are acceptable. Sorry that you feel the world isn’t following your desires and expectations but they need more than a promise that things may get better to e…
That's covered fairly extensively in the vast amounts of literature on climate change mitigation, with all due respect. Carbon neutral in the next few decades is the short answer to your question.
Otherwise increasingly severe floods, droughts and storms will dramatically alter the economy, way of living and social order for billions of people anyway.
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#10It is distinctly unhelpful to keep trying to make people feel bad. People experiencing negative emotions are less capable of effecting positive outcomes. It is also unhelpful to keep referring to individual points like this as illustrative. It's hypocritical and provides ammunition to climate change deniers when they say things like "But this spring was really cold!" Weather is not climate and a year over year compar…
a year over year comparison of one calendar month is not a trend
I'm in my 40s and I've been seeing headlines like "hottest September on record" since my twenties. This is just the most recent one.