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Last Call for Gumshoes

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Re: Last Call for Gumshoes

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> The private eye went and sat in the pew behind her. At the end of the service, he followed her out, stopped her, and asked for help; he said he had Parkinson’s (he didn’t) and was having trouble licking the church’s donation envelope. The mother kindly obliged, leaving DNA-infused spittle behind (and the church a few dollars poorer).

Could DNA evidence obtained this way be admissible?

Would the defendant estate’s lawyer ask the mother in court if she had provided her DNA for analysis and she would say no?

Re: Last Call for Gumshoes

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this is such a sad story. humanity used to be able to support such a diverse range of drives & ends. we increasingly have less & less viability in supporting diverse forms of human existence.

Re: Last Call for Gumshoes

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> The private eye went and sat in the pew behind her. At the end of the service, he followed her out, stopped her, and asked for help; he said he had Parkinson’s (he didn’t) and was having trouble licking the church’s donation envelope. The mother kindly obliged, leaving DNA-infused spittle behind (and the church a few dollars poorer). Could DNA evidence obtained this way be admissible? Would the defendant estate’s l…

If it's not then it's rediculous, the subject was already providing the material voluntarily so it's not like they were somehow burdened.

Re: Last Call for Gumshoes

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> The private eye went and sat in the pew behind her. At the end of the service, he followed her out, stopped her, and asked for help; he said he had Parkinson’s (he didn’t) and was having trouble licking the church’s donation envelope. The mother kindly obliged, leaving DNA-infused spittle behind (and the church a few dollars poorer). Could DNA evidence obtained this way be admissible? Would the defendant estate’s l…

There would be chain-of-custody issues if anyone decided to dispute them, certainly.

The article says "Hillblom’s mother [...] had so far refused to comply with a court order to provide blood samples."

So ignoring chain-of-custody issues, if the court has made an order and the mother has refused, some would say it's better the order be enforced by subterfuge than by force.