Did Early Humans Invent Hot Pot in Geothermal Pools?

kyuudou wrote: post #3

Later humans in Japan did using onsen, which is basically the same thing IIRC: http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20200824-the-japanese-villag... Definitely plausible.

I've tried the 温泉卵 onsen tamago(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onsen_tamago). The one I had was kind of over cooked and had a sulfur taste. Wasn't great.

In Iceland they also use the hotsprings to cook bread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz-7iUw8Sl0

Re: Did Early Humans Invent Hot Pot in Geothermal Pools?

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Post by eru » Fri, Oct 02, 2020, 1:53 AM UTC

moufestaphio wrote: post #4

kyuudou wrote: post #3

Later humans in Japan did using onsen, which is basically the same thing IIRC: http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20200824-the-japanese-villag... Definitely plausible.

I've tried the 温泉卵 onsen tamago( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onsen_tamago ). The one I had was kind of over cooked and had a sulfur taste. Wasn't great. In Iceland they also use the hotsprings to cook bread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz-7iUw8Sl0

Well, whether your egg will have a sulphuric taste will depend on whether the onsen you went to had sulphuric water.

Re: Did Early Humans Invent Hot Pot in Geothermal Pools?

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Post by johndoe42377 » Fri, Oct 02, 2020, 2:15 AM UTC

Obviously no.

It is a stupid idea from Jungian and Froidian "psychology" that symbols have been invented once and then propagated everywhere, and that this supposed propagation is an evidence of migration pathways and relationship.

Same stupidity goes with linguistics - if something is called by the same name in the different parts of the world, there must be an infallible evidence of migration and relation.

No, everything related to the constraints of the environment (Nature) has been invented many times independently. Basic symbols based on geometric shapes too.

Re: Did Early Humans Invent Hot Pot in Geothermal Pools?

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Post by tt433 » Fri, Oct 02, 2020, 3:03 AM UTC

johndoe42377 wrote: post #6

Obviously no. It is a stupid idea from Jungian and Froidian "psychology" that symbols have been invented once and then propagated everywhere, and that this supposed propagation is an evidence of migration pathways and relationship. Same stupidity goes with linguistics - if something is called by the same name in the different parts of the world, there must be an infallible evidence of migration and relation. No, ever…

I fail to see how this is "obvious." By the logic that nature invents things many times, isn't it possible some humans at some point did this? Obviously they didn't call it "hot pot," the article doesn't actually suggest that, it's used as a shortcut in a headline to communicate a point. Your suggestion of a link to Jung and Freud makes no sense to me...

Re: Did Early Humans Invent Hot Pot in Geothermal Pools?

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Post by stanrivers » Fri, Oct 02, 2020, 3:07 AM UTC

Like, there is no doubt that humans probably noticed that hot water in the ground cooked things that fell into them.

But, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that it was probably someone with boiled water from that whole fire thing we figured out a while ago that invented the revolutionary idea of putting more than just a dead animal into the water.

Just a guess though.

Re: Did Early Humans Invent Hot Pot in Geothermal Pools?

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Post by tt433 » Fri, Oct 02, 2020, 3:09 AM UTC

stanrivers wrote: post #8

Like, there is no doubt that humans probably noticed that hot water in the ground cooked things that fell into them. But, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that it was probably someone with boiled water from that whole fire thing we figured out a while ago that invented the revolutionary idea of putting more than just a dead animal into the water. Just a guess though.

I believe the authors are postulating about the behavior of pre-human ancestors without the capability to generate fires on demand. “The paper opens a window to stop focusing on there being fire or there not being fire, to say there are other ways to cook and we should be looking for them.”

Re: Did Early Humans Invent Hot Pot in Geothermal Pools?

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Post by andygcook » Fri, Oct 02, 2020, 3:49 AM UTC

My partner loves hot pot, so I bought her a home hot pot kit for Christmas last year. At first she didn’t want to use it at all which was disappointing, but then it become a huge hit when all the restaurants closed down for Covid. Home hot pot has now turned into our fun date night tradition on Friday’s where we eat together for a few hours while talking.

Here’s our list of ingredients we like if anyone is curious. Would love to hear other recommendations to try too:

King oyster mushrooms, Shitaki mushrooms, Tofu skin dried, Frozen bean curd rolls frozen, Fried tofu, Bean curd nuggets, Choripdong Oriental Style Noodles, Bok Choy, Broccoli, Corn on cob, Lotus root, Beef (thin sliced), Shrimp

Part of the fun is plating the ingredients before eating and working on our presentation skills together. It’s really rewarding when we can make it look like they do at the restaurant.

After some trial and error, we also recommend the Little Lamb broths. They comes in different spice levels and taste just like the restaurant. All you need to do is add six cups of water: https://www.amazon.com/Little-Sheep-Soup-Base-235-Grams/dp/B...

FYI that’s not an affiliate link, I just like hot pot and wanted to share.

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