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Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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> Panasonic has been experimenting with showing ads when you adjust audio volume and European broadcasters have started using HbbTV to serve targeted ads.

Who ever thought that would be a good idea? Do these people have no common sense whatsoever? People will dump TVs and TV watching and switch to PC set top boxes, internet streaming, large monitors before they accept this sort of nonsense.

Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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Expect more of this as users hold onto their devices for longer and services become increasingly important as a source of recurring revenue. Apple is uniquely positioned to weather this transition. The best way I can see forward for Samsung here is profit sharing with Google and Microsoft.

Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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Do they wait with showing ads, say a month or so, until after the common return policy for most stores have expired? That would be a really evil thing to do, just struck my mind.

Also, sounds like a case of optimization creep - "I know a way to get even more revenue, we just sign up with this $more_shady_ad_network!". Displaying more and more creepy ads, no-one decreasing ads since they don't want to be the one decreasing ad revenue.

Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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Just as the 's' in 'IoT' stands for 'security', the 'f' in 'IoT' stands for 'fairness to users.' Never buy a consumer product that expects an Internet connection.

Well that does get very difficult with TV since a large number of people stream, the app on my LG is actually better than my Apple TV but it is toss up with the Roku on the other TV.

So I am going to say, for the technically inclined its time to chase down your router firewall logs and find where the TV is going to for ads and block the IP or port range. Would be curious what the TV does, properly engineered it should just act as if its not connected at all.

Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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When I wrote about phones "Mass market is demanding products nonsensically thin to the detriment of other properties, because it was told to. It could be told otherwise." I got laughed off. That the market isn't going to serve my fancy preferences.

But this is the same thing, the market is repeatedly told to ask for smart devices, even when dumb TV is all the users need.

Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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post #5

Do they wait with showing ads, say a month or so, until after the common return policy for most stores have expired? That would be a really evil thing to do, just struck my mind. Also, sounds like a case of optimization creep - "I know a way to get even more revenue, we just sign up with this $more_shady_ad_network!". Displaying more and more creepy ads, no-one decreasing ads since they don't want to be the one decre…

> Do they wait with showing ads, say a month or so, until after the common return policy for most stores have expired?

What? A month? Sale of goods act.

Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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post #6

Just as the 's' in 'IoT' stands for 'security', the 'f' in 'IoT' stands for 'fairness to users.' Never buy a consumer product that expects an Internet connection.

Well that does get very difficult with TV since a large number of people stream, the app on my LG is actually better than my Apple TV but it is toss up with the Roku on the other TV. So I am going to say, for the technically inclined its time to chase down your router firewall logs and find where the TV is going to for ads and block the IP or port range. Would be curious what the TV does, properly engineered it shoul…

One could use a separate box for all the smarts.

Integration brings unneeded obsolescence and reduces choice and control. May be hard to avoid in space constrained phones but should not be needed on tvs.

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