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Re: Designing for Privacy – An Emerging Software Pattern

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I’m curious if security consciousness has been raised to the point where people are willing to pay for the iron-clad guarantee that their information will never be sold... and if it’s enough to support privacy-first apps and startups.

Great question. There's certainly a raising awareness on data privacy, from both consumers and companies. A clear driving force is coming from regulators, as well.

If anything, companies can use privacy-first value proposition as a distinction.

Re: Designing for Privacy – An Emerging Software Pattern

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I don't actually know if I read this quote somewhere or made it up somehow, but I've been using:

"Privacy/Security is getting better but it's getting worse faster".

There's soooo many people working hard on both security and privacy. They're trying their best to make products that are privacy focused and more secure. But they're up against Facebook, Google, etc... and the fact that many consumers just don't care. We say we care, but in the end, we don't.

*I guess the quote is paraphrased from a Renner book?

Re: Designing for Privacy – An Emerging Software Pattern

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I don't actually know if I read this quote somewhere or made it up somehow, but I've been using: "Privacy/Security is getting better but it's getting worse faster". There's soooo many people working hard on both security and privacy. They're trying their best to make products that are privacy focused and more secure. But they're up against Facebook, Google, etc... and the fact that many consumers just don't care. We…

The "getting worse faster" part is only likely to get even faster with the growing amount of internet interactions and internet use.

Re: Designing for Privacy – An Emerging Software Pattern

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I’m curious if security consciousness has been raised to the point where people are willing to pay for the iron-clad guarantee that their information will never be sold... and if it’s enough to support privacy-first apps and startups.

Is there any instance of (a) a SaaS with a legally binding contract with some teeth around user privacy and (b) where that clause was exercised and the user benefited?

The civil route be an alternative to regulatory solutions.

Re: Designing for Privacy – An Emerging Software Pattern

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I’m curious if security consciousness has been raised to the point where people are willing to pay for the iron-clad guarantee that their information will never be sold... and if it’s enough to support privacy-first apps and startups.

Is there any instance of (a) a SaaS with a legally binding contract with some teeth around user privacy and (b) where that clause was exercised and the user benefited? The civil route be an alternative to regulatory solutions.

one hundred percent agree. The civil route is the only one where we can achieve a true change. The regulations can push, but consumer demand will ultimately change business perception

Re: Designing for Privacy – An Emerging Software Pattern

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I’m curious if security consciousness has been raised to the point where people are willing to pay for the iron-clad guarantee that their information will never be sold... and if it’s enough to support privacy-first apps and startups.

Is there any instance of (a) a SaaS with a legally binding contract with some teeth around user privacy and (b) where that clause was exercised and the user benefited? The civil route be an alternative to regulatory solutions.

Regulation doesn't make the social change. Software does.

Re: Designing for Privacy – An Emerging Software Pattern

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I don't actually know if I read this quote somewhere or made it up somehow, but I've been using: "Privacy/Security is getting better but it's getting worse faster". There's soooo many people working hard on both security and privacy. They're trying their best to make products that are privacy focused and more secure. But they're up against Facebook, Google, etc... and the fact that many consumers just don't care. We…

> We say we care, but in the end, we don't.

Others who care are fighting this fight. Facebook's message at the recent f8 was "privacy is the future"... It is not everyday you get giants like those, even superficially, to pay lip-service to something like that.

> But they're up against Facebook, Google, etc.

It isn't a losing battle, I don't think so. A lot of hardworking and smart people are putting in the effort, like you mentioned, but that effort isn't in vain. May be you're not paying enough attention to know the impact their work is having?

Re: Designing for Privacy – An Emerging Software Pattern

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I don't actually know if I read this quote somewhere or made it up somehow, but I've been using: "Privacy/Security is getting better but it's getting worse faster". There's soooo many people working hard on both security and privacy. They're trying their best to make products that are privacy focused and more secure. But they're up against Facebook, Google, etc... and the fact that many consumers just don't care. We…

Thing is, the people that care about privacy and security are often the often the ones understanding and developing the privacy conscious and secure apps we hear of.

Like any product however, if people don't care you won't survive and that's why none of the privacy conscious alternatives survive.

Only legal requirements have really made secure, privacy conscious or locally developed alternatives viable.

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