IBAHRI condemned UK treatment of Julian Assange in US extradition trial
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#2What is the significance and implications of such condemnation?
Re: IBAHRI condemned UK treatment of Julian Assange in US extradition trial
#3What is the significance and implications of such condemnation?
I don’t know them but a quick scan of courses suggests that they are a serious INGO with a sizeable membership of lawyers and law societies worldwide.
That said, this is from March and recent condemnations/requests/urging on their part seem to come regularly and with regards to issues of justice globally. In the past ten days there are a couple of “IBA urges” and “IBA calls for” announcments on their site. https://www.ibanet.org/Article/
Re: IBAHRI condemned UK treatment of Julian Assange in US extradition trial
#4Interestingly, this is from March, which means it's not even a response to what happened at this hearing(s?) this week.
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2020/09/your-man-in-...
and
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2020/09/your-man-in-...
Re: IBAHRI condemned UK treatment of Julian Assange in US extradition trial
#5It sickens me how little it seems to matter to people in our mainstream discourse whether or not Assange is treated as a human being. After he was removed from the Ecuadorian embassy, and officials said he had behaved erratically there and smeared feces on the walls, etc., the public reaction was along the lines of, “Wow, what a weirdo loser”—rather than, “Oh God, what have we done to this person?” It speaks poorly of our society.
Re: IBAHRI condemned UK treatment of Julian Assange in US extradition trial
#6People don’t care because he’s “a bad guy”.
That’s where we’ve got to.
Trouble is people aren’t brought up with an understanding of how things should be in a fair and just society. They’re brought up with some mucky mixed up perception that the world is some mashup of Hollywood and what the media says.
There’s no moral compass for society any more.
My personal take is he’s some sort of weird Russian asset and he’s a net negative for our way of life but I still think he deserves the full protection of the law at every single stage. He shouldn’t be sold out and abandoned by society.
It sounds twee but my mother brought me up to care about other people, the less well off and to care about what’s right and justice for all. I think “we’ll theres an awful lot of people in this world who didn’t have my mother. What did they learn?”
Re: IBAHRI condemned UK treatment of Julian Assange in US extradition trial
#7Interestingly, this is from March, which means it's not even a response to what happened at this hearing(s?) this week. https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2020/09/your-man-in-... and https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2020/09/your-man-in-...
Latest on the hearing appears to be this (posted yesterday):
> Julian Assange's extradition hearing at the Old Bailey today will not be going ahead because the husband of one of the US lawyers has come down with Covid-like symptoms.
> Once he gets the result of a test the judge will determine how best to proceed.
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#8I can't think of a special reason why the UK would have it in for Julian Assange. I presume they are doing this in order to cow towel to their ally the United States. Do they not realize that the United States is likely to undergo a regime change at the beginning of next year? Do they think the new regime in the US will feel the same way about Julian Assange and will put the same kind of pressure on the UK that the Trump administration presumably has? Do they think that they can reverse course and just apologize for the failure of justice if the US changes administrations?
Don't try telling me that the UK government is not a party here and that this is simply a case of a zealous prosecutor and biased judge -- because I'm not fool enough to believe that story.
Re: IBAHRI condemned UK treatment of Julian Assange in US extradition trial
#9I can't think of a special reason why the UK would have it in for Julian Assange. I presume they are doing this in order to cow towel to their ally the United States. Do they not realize that the United States is likely to undergo a regime change at the beginning of next year? Do they think the new regime in the US will feel the same way about Julian Assange and will put the same kind of pressure on the UK that the T…
FYI I think you meant "kowtow" rather than "cow towel."
Re: IBAHRI condemned UK treatment of Julian Assange in US extradition trial
#10People don’t care because he’s “a bad guy”. That’s where we’ve got to. Trouble is people aren’t brought up with an understanding of how things should be in a fair and just society. They’re brought up with some mucky mixed up perception that the world is some mashup of Hollywood and what the media says. There’s no moral compass for society any more. My personal take is he’s some sort of weird Russian asset and he’s a…
Are there people that think he is a bad guy?
At least where I live I didn‘t hear anyone say that.
Maybe this is different in the US. It‘s more like our government doesn’t say anything because of US imperialism. And most people don‘t know about him or think this outcome is expected if you dare to mess with the US.
It looks more like pessimism to me. And it‘s to be expected. The US foreign policy was always inhumane. It knows no moral boundaries as long as it serves the economic interest of their corporations. Not that other countries are better in that regard.