Amazon deletes job listings for analysts to track ‘labor organizing threats’
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Re: Amazon deletes job listings for analysts to track ‘labor organizing threats’
#2Is that even legal? I thought the US or most states at least like most other countries have laws against undermining the ability of employees to organise.
Re: Amazon deletes job listings for analysts to track ‘labor organizing threats’
#3Why doesn't Amazon do what all monopolies do, lobby the government and cause Regulatory capture to corner the market?
It's easy, spend 100M dollars on a law that makes warehouse labor a mandatory union.
Mom and pop companies can't afford to fill out government/union paperwork for their 3 employees and customers can't go to cheaper alternatives.
But this means Amazon and Amazon employees win.
Re: Amazon deletes job listings for analysts to track ‘labor organizing threats’
#4Is that even legal? I thought the US or most states at least like most other countries have laws against undermining the ability of employees to organise.
Hah. In the US, there are laws, but their effectiveness depends on enforcement. Additionally, there's an entire industry of employer-side law firms focused on union busting, who advise employers on how to do as much as possible without crossing the legal line or getting caught when doing so.
Re: Amazon deletes job listings for analysts to track ‘labor organizing threats’
#5Why doesn't Amazon do what all monopolies do, lobby the government and cause Regulatory capture to corner the market? It's easy, spend 100M dollars on a law that makes warehouse labor a mandatory union. Mom and pop companies can't afford to fill out government/union paperwork for their 3 employees and customers can't go to cheaper alternatives. But this means Amazon and Amazon employees win.
Unions are probably the biggest threat to Amazon in the long term, as their interests are directly against Amazon, they'd rather there be 100 competitors they can buy out/drive out of business one at a time; then a single union who could easily shut them down (by striking)
Re: Amazon deletes job listings for analysts to track ‘labor organizing threats’
#6Is that even legal? I thought the US or most states at least like most other countries have laws against undermining the ability of employees to organise.
If you've ever worked in retail, one of the first "training" videos they show you is an anti-union informational video.
One of the big points of the videos is to report union organizers to management ASAP.
This kind of training is extremely common for low wage jobs in the U.S. If almost all large retailers are doing it, it mustn't be illegal, or not enforced.
Re: Amazon deletes job listings for analysts to track ‘labor organizing threats’
#7Jeff has a lot of money. Surely workers rights don't hit the bottom line that hard.
Does Jeff not know that everyone will remember him for this behavior?
Re: Amazon deletes job listings for analysts to track ‘labor organizing threats’
#8Jeff has a lot of money. Surely workers rights don't hit the bottom line that hard. Does Jeff not know that everyone will remember him for this behavior?
> Does Jeff not know that everyone will remember him for this behavior?
This presupposes that Jeff cares about his legacy. I genuinely don't know what drives him; my best guess is 'making Amazon ever more successful'.
Re: Amazon deletes job listings for analysts to track ‘labor organizing threats’
#9Is that even legal? I thought the US or most states at least like most other countries have laws against undermining the ability of employees to organise.
Hah. In the US, there are laws, but their effectiveness depends on enforcement. Additionally, there's an entire industry of employer-side law firms focused on union busting, who advise employers on how to do as much as possible without crossing the legal line or getting caught when doing so.
I would be curious to know what European labor laws are like. I'm also curious about what kinds of tactics these companies resort to which are sufficiently legal. Can anyone recommend good labor books?
Re: Amazon deletes job listings for analysts to track ‘labor organizing threats’
#10Is that even legal? I thought the US or most states at least like most other countries have laws against undermining the ability of employees to organise.
Yes, but you can "track" it. It's the actions you take against it which may be constrained by law.