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A friend and I

Languages evolve. If people say “me and X” over the formal “X and I,” then the more correct answer is “me and X.”

The only people I’ve seen quibble over this matter is English language teachers in school.

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A friend and I

Languages evolve. If people say “me and X” over the formal “X and I,” then the more correct answer is “me and X.” The only people I’ve seen quibble over this matter is English language teachers in school.

The correct term for this is hypercorrect (this is more accurate description of this phenomenon than “less/more correct”). [1]

I’m trying not to quibble over language — just wanted to note that this is a well-documented phenomenon with a fancy name (I’m not an English teacher).

[1]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypercorrection

Edit: I clarified what I meant to say. Earlier it said “more correct” rather than “less/more” correct.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Languages evolve. If people say “me and X” over the formal “X and I,” then the more correct answer is “me and X.” The only people I’ve seen quibble over this matter is English language teachers in school.

The correct term for this is hypercorrect (this is more accurate description of this phenomenon than “less/more correct”). [1] I’m trying not to quibble over language — just wanted to note that this is a well-documented phenomenon with a fancy name (I’m not an English teacher). [1]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypercorrection Edit: I clarified what I meant to say. Earlier it said “more correct” rather than “less/…

That's actually the opposite problem. The example given there (which matches the description) is the use of "a friend and I" in object position, not subject position (as is the case here) due to over application of the actual rule that one should use "I" and not "me" when in subject position.

I'm not sure that this qualifies for the same, since it seems unlikely to be the result of overgeneralization of rule so much as a simple (and common) mistake.

Re: Slate Star Codex Abridged - A Friend And I Remastered 85 Slate Star Codex Posts

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A friend and I

Languages evolve. If people say “me and X” over the formal “X and I,” then the more correct answer is “me and X.” The only people I’ve seen quibble over this matter is English language teachers in school.

Or we could just learn the most basic grammar rules in our language so we don't sound ignorant instead of just winging it at all times.

You only hear it from English teachers because they're the only ones who want to help you. When you don't know the difference between an adjective and past participle in your cover letter or article, you just look a little less competent. Nobody is going to respond to help you out.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The correct term for this is hypercorrect (this is more accurate description of this phenomenon than “less/more correct”). [1] I’m trying not to quibble over language — just wanted to note that this is a well-documented phenomenon with a fancy name (I’m not an English teacher). [1]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypercorrection Edit: I clarified what I meant to say. Earlier it said “more correct” rather than “less/…

That's actually the opposite problem. The example given there (which matches the description) is the use of "a friend and I" in object position, not subject position (as is the case here) due to over application of the actual rule that one should use "I" and not "me" when in subject position. I'm not sure that this qualifies for the same, since it seems unlikely to be the result of overgeneralization of rule so much…

Right, thanks — that’s what I meant to say. I just edited the comment to fix the mistake.

You’re totally correct!

Re: Slate Star Codex Abridged - A Friend And I Remastered 85 Slate Star Codex Posts

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I wish this was dated, as of when they did it. SSC is back up, so while its nice having an index to browse and some editorial "best of" contribution, I otherwise dont know why youd read the articles here and not the original site.

You mean this blog with default CSS? And barely any site navigation?

https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/05/23/ssc-gives-a-graduation...

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