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Re: Amazon Interactive Video Service – Add Live Video to Your Apps and Websites

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Price is pretty good, surprisingly. Looks like they take RTMP in and output m3u8 (probably fmp4 behind the scenes). 2 second latency is also not bad.

Larger streamers on Twitch can get ~20k concurrent viewers. A long streaming day would be 10 hours. They would also be streaming from NA so using their example pricing suggests:

Input: $2/hour * 10 hours = $20

Output: $0.15 * 10 * 20,000 = $30k

A worst case scenario of $30,020/day of streaming. Still seems financially unviable. I guess Twitch can stay in business for now.

EDIT:

Basic table

    Viewers Hours Min     Best     Worst
    20000   10    $7,520  $14,020  $30,020
     2000    6      $462     $852   $1,812
      500    4       $83     $148     $308
      200    2       $19      $32      $64

Re: Amazon Interactive Video Service – Add Live Video to Your Apps and Websites

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Price is pretty good, surprisingly. Looks like they take RTMP in and output m3u8 (probably fmp4 behind the scenes). 2 second latency is also not bad. Larger streamers on Twitch can get ~20k concurrent viewers. A long streaming day would be 10 hours. They would also be streaming from NA so using their example pricing suggests: Input: $2/hour * 10 hours = $20 Output: $0.15 * 10 * 20,000 = $30k A worst case scenario of…

I've wondered for a while- are there heuristics on the income a steamer can make per viewer-hour?

Edit: I'd googled this before, but apparently I found the right way to ask: this site says from 1c to $1/hour/viewer. https://wallethacks.com/how-much-do-twitch-streamers-make/#:....

Re: Amazon Interactive Video Service – Add Live Video to Your Apps and Websites

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Price is pretty good, surprisingly. Looks like they take RTMP in and output m3u8 (probably fmp4 behind the scenes). 2 second latency is also not bad. Larger streamers on Twitch can get ~20k concurrent viewers. A long streaming day would be 10 hours. They would also be streaming from NA so using their example pricing suggests: Input: $2/hour * 10 hours = $20 Output: $0.15 * 10 * 20,000 = $30k A worst case scenario of…

> I guess Twitch can stay in business for now.

I assume you're being sarcastic/coy, but for those that might not know, Amazon owns Twitch. I'm guessing this service is them white labeling Twitch's tech infrastructure, and priced such that someone could not make a Twitch competitor with reasonable profit margins.

Re: Amazon Interactive Video Service – Add Live Video to Your Apps and Websites

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Price is pretty good, surprisingly. Looks like they take RTMP in and output m3u8 (probably fmp4 behind the scenes). 2 second latency is also not bad. Larger streamers on Twitch can get ~20k concurrent viewers. A long streaming day would be 10 hours. They would also be streaming from NA so using their example pricing suggests: Input: $2/hour * 10 hours = $20 Output: $0.15 * 10 * 20,000 = $30k A worst case scenario of…

I've wondered for a while- are there heuristics on the income a steamer can make per viewer-hour? Edit: I'd googled this before, but apparently I found the right way to ask: this site says from 1c to $1/hour/viewer. https://wallethacks.com/how-much-do-twitch-streamers-make/#:... .

For what it's worth, that's just income directly from sponsored content. The bulk of livable streaming income (outside of huge endorsements) comes from monthly subscriptions, so conversion rate matters as much as total viewership.

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Price is pretty good, surprisingly. Looks like they take RTMP in and output m3u8 (probably fmp4 behind the scenes). 2 second latency is also not bad. Larger streamers on Twitch can get ~20k concurrent viewers. A long streaming day would be 10 hours. They would also be streaming from NA so using their example pricing suggests: Input: $2/hour * 10 hours = $20 Output: $0.15 * 10 * 20,000 = $30k A worst case scenario of…

Weird that they just not charge for egress as with other services.

Also it seems a lot cheaper, assuming full hd is 1 MB/s. That would mean approx 3.6GB/h which would come out at 0.54$/h in comparison to their 0.15$/h pricing

Re: Amazon Interactive Video Service – Add Live Video to Your Apps and Websites

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The proliferation of half-baked services at AWS needs to end. There are way too many services that are just enticing enough to get you to play around with it, but then you realize it's totally crippled and unusable for most actual workflows, or that someone else already does it way better. They need to focus on a few that are commercially viable and let other companies prove out the rest.

Re: Amazon Interactive Video Service – Add Live Video to Your Apps and Websites

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post #8

The proliferation of half-baked services at AWS needs to end. There are way too many services that are just enticing enough to get you to play around with it, but then you realize it's totally crippled and unusable for most actual workflows, or that someone else already does it way better. They need to focus on a few that are commercially viable and let other companies prove out the rest.

There are plenty of companies thoroughly locked in to AWS infrastructure. They don't need to lure in new companies with these services (though the wide variety helps). The point is to get companies already locked in to start using these services and lock themselves in more, so they have even more difficulty ever leaving.

Re: Amazon Interactive Video Service – Add Live Video to Your Apps and Websites

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post #6

Price is pretty good, surprisingly. Looks like they take RTMP in and output m3u8 (probably fmp4 behind the scenes). 2 second latency is also not bad. Larger streamers on Twitch can get ~20k concurrent viewers. A long streaming day would be 10 hours. They would also be streaming from NA so using their example pricing suggests: Input: $2/hour * 10 hours = $20 Output: $0.15 * 10 * 20,000 = $30k A worst case scenario of…

Weird that they just not charge for egress as with other services. Also it seems a lot cheaper, assuming full hd is 1 MB/s. That would mean approx 3.6GB/h which would come out at 0.54$/h in comparison to their 0.15$/h pricing

> Weird that they just not charge for egress as with other services.

My guess is they are charging ingress in place of some equivalent of compute necessary to transmux. That cost is fixed regardless of number of viewers.

Their docs state "The maximum input for a Standard channel is 8.5 Mbps and 1080p resolution (full HD)." but they could be outputting something less than that.

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