Are there legitimate, credible sources that aggregate startup salaries in European tech hubs? Or is anyone willing to share about this?
Ask HN: Startup Salaries in Europe
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#2A good rule of thumb (although it's difficult to summarize the salaries of all the countries in Europe) is:
Juniors up to 30K. Mediors up to 50K. Seniors up to 80K.
This is for software engineers.
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#3A good rule of thumb (although it's difficult to summarize the salaries of all the countries in Europe) is: Juniors up to 30K. Mediors up to 50K. Seniors up to 80K. This is for software engineers.
At least in Germany they are higher. A friend who is still in college got an offer as a new grad for ~75k. This offer is probably in the top 10% though. I don't know a single friend from college who starts with less than 45k as a new grad. Those who get 45k usually don't have internship experience.
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#4A good rule of thumb (although it's difficult to summarize the salaries of all the countries in Europe) is: Juniors up to 30K. Mediors up to 50K. Seniors up to 80K. This is for software engineers.
At least in Germany they are higher. A friend who is still in college got an offer as a new grad for ~75k. This offer is probably in the top 10% though. I don't know a single friend from college who starts with less than 45k as a new grad. Those who get 45k usually don't have internship experience.
In Italy a senior dev would often get less than half of that (pretax). Basically just in Milan salary are higher but a junior would not get more than 30k
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#5A good rule of thumb (although it's difficult to summarize the salaries of all the countries in Europe) is: Juniors up to 30K. Mediors up to 50K. Seniors up to 80K. This is for software engineers.
I’ve always been under the impression your taxes are also very high, so what does your actual take home salary look like?
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#6A good rule of thumb (although it's difficult to summarize the salaries of all the countries in Europe) is: Juniors up to 30K. Mediors up to 50K. Seniors up to 80K. This is for software engineers.
At least in Germany they are higher. A friend who is still in college got an offer as a new grad for ~75k. This offer is probably in the top 10% though. I don't know a single friend from college who starts with less than 45k as a new grad. Those who get 45k usually don't have internship experience.
Yeah but Germany is a shit hole.
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#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
At least in Germany they are higher. A friend who is still in college got an offer as a new grad for ~75k. This offer is probably in the top 10% though. I don't know a single friend from college who starts with less than 45k as a new grad. Those who get 45k usually don't have internship experience.
In Italy a senior dev would often get less than half of that (pretax). Basically just in Milan salary are higher but a junior would not get more than 30k
What does that look like post tax?
Is it livable?
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#8How does equity or stock options work in Europe?
Is it as common as the US? What is normal for percentages/allotments?
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#9I made about 2x less in Europe than the US in a similar sized startup, this is in product management.
But there were other perks- 35 days minimum vacation (I was required to take those days by law), a very clear work life balance, more relaxed work environment and a better quality of life overall.
I did end up moving back to the US to make 3x more (money is important to me right now), but am planning to return after my wife and I have kids- the quality of life differences are just too great.
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#10A good rule of thumb (although it's difficult to summarize the salaries of all the countries in Europe) is: Juniors up to 30K. Mediors up to 50K. Seniors up to 80K. This is for software engineers.
I’ve always been under the impression your taxes are also very high, so what does your actual take home salary look like?
Context matters. You take home more than just money. In most of Europe you take home free, or nearly free, health care, education and so on. In the USA you take home a strong military. And that's before we consider local cost of living.
Comparing take-home £ in isolation is almost meaningless - it doesn't equate to disposable income after expenses - or what that disposable income can buy.
IOW making 200k in SF is less than say 50K in Milan. (numbers made up)