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Global temperatures likely to hit at least 1C warming for next five years

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Re: Global temperatures likely to hit at least 1C warming for next five years

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In germany we have a drought right now. I never assumed that we in germany get water issues.

Now farmers said things like 'i have never seen so little water at this time of year in the 30 years im a farmer'.

I don't have the feeling we are recognizing the elephant in the room.

My personal take on this is to buy a farm, buy water reserve tanks, have a little garden and trying to become independend. Which is not a bad plan in general as it helps to cut costs down anyway if you do it smart enough. Its not that i get money when i put it in the bank and corona showed how volatile shares can be.

Re: Global temperatures likely to hit at least 1C warming for next five years

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In germany we have a drought right now. I never assumed that we in germany get water issues. Now farmers said things like 'i have never seen so little water at this time of year in the 30 years im a farmer'. I don't have the feeling we are recognizing the elephant in the room. My personal take on this is to buy a farm, buy water reserve tanks, have a little garden and trying to become independend. Which is not a bad…

30 years is not a good enough sample. In fact it's pretty bad.

Re: Global temperatures likely to hit at least 1C warming for next five years

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In germany we have a drought right now. I never assumed that we in germany get water issues. Now farmers said things like 'i have never seen so little water at this time of year in the 30 years im a farmer'. I don't have the feeling we are recognizing the elephant in the room. My personal take on this is to buy a farm, buy water reserve tanks, have a little garden and trying to become independend. Which is not a bad…

30 years is not a good enough sample. In fact it's pretty bad.

I do combine this with other data i read of course.

We do have more data available than just what one farmer experiences.

Nonetheless, what is a good response to it?

I don't have the feeling that just ignoring it or not doing anything is a good approach.

Re: Global temperatures likely to hit at least 1C warming for next five years

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

30 years is not a good enough sample. In fact it's pretty bad.

I do combine this with other data i read of course. We do have more data available than just what one farmer experiences. Nonetheless, what is a good response to it? I don't have the feeling that just ignoring it or not doing anything is a good approach.

It makes me incredibly nervous about what happens when water and food gets scarce and you have cities full of people with no ability to acquire these basic needs from the land. You can desal water on coastal communities with cheap renewables, but you can’t grow food in concrete.

Re: Global temperatures likely to hit at least 1C warming for next five years

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Doesn't sound dramatic to me, especially considering the process for calculating these "global" temperatures (stations near growing urban heat islands etc.).

I'd be more interested in long-time temperature increases in specific remote areas. One of the oldest continuous temperature records on a mountain in Germany shows less than 0.7C since 1800: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hohenpeißenberg_Meteorological...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hohenpeißenberg_Meteorological...

Re: Global temperatures likely to hit at least 1C warming for next five years

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Doesn't sound dramatic to me, especially considering the process for calculating these "global" temperatures (stations near growing urban heat islands etc.). I'd be more interested in long-time temperature increases in specific remote areas. One of the oldest continuous temperature records on a mountain in Germany shows less than 0.7C since 1800: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hohenpeißenberg_Meteorological... https:/…

It seems very unlikely that this report would fall into the well-known problem of not accounting for urban heat islands:

https://www.skepticalscience.com/urban-heat-island-effect.ht...

Are you specifically clamining that the authors ignored this ?

Re: Global temperatures likely to hit at least 1C warming for next five years

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We seem to be trending right along with the worst case emissions scenario: https://sites.uci.edu/energyobserver/files/2018/11/4BDC35FE-...

Edit: There is also credible evidence we've been underestimating climate sensitivity for years: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01484-5

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