If you want fair libel law for the Internet age, get involved
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If you want fair libel law for the Internet age, get involved
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Re: If you want fair libel law for the Internet age, get involved
#21. This is why anonymity is important online.
2. It's unfortunate that the default position is encroachments on rights, requiring active defense for their preservation.
Re: If you want fair libel law for the Internet age, get involved
#31. This is why anonymity is important online. 2. It's unfortunate that the default position is encroachments on rights, requiring active defense for their preservation.
Is anonymity really the solution? That basically says it's OK to say anything about anyone because there will never be any redress.
I'd suggest that there should be some protection against defamation, the issue is that the laws that exist in the UK at the moment do a poor job of differentiating between defending against genuine defamation and what is frankly an abuse of process (using the process and it's associated costs to intimidate).
Re: If you want fair libel law for the Internet age, get involved
#41. This is why anonymity is important online. 2. It's unfortunate that the default position is encroachments on rights, requiring active defense for their preservation.
Is anonymity really the solution? That basically says it's OK to say anything about anyone because there will never be any redress. I'd suggest that there should be some protection against defamation, the issue is that the laws that exist in the UK at the moment do a poor job of differentiating between defending against genuine defamation and what is frankly an abuse of process (using the process and it's associated…
Anonymity comes with a price though. You don't have any sort of reputation to build on when making claims about other people. If you want people to have more of a reason to believe what you say, putting your name on it should carry more weight. That should be the balance here.
Re: If you want fair libel law for the Internet age, get involved
#5Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is anonymity really the solution? That basically says it's OK to say anything about anyone because there will never be any redress. I'd suggest that there should be some protection against defamation, the issue is that the laws that exist in the UK at the moment do a poor job of differentiating between defending against genuine defamation and what is frankly an abuse of process (using the process and it's associated…
Anonymity comes with a price though. You don't have any sort of reputation to build on when making claims about other people. If you want people to have more of a reason to believe what you say, putting your name on it should carry more weight. That should be the balance here.
You can build an anonymous reputation around a pseudonym.
Re: If you want fair libel law for the Internet age, get involved
#61. This is why anonymity is important online. 2. It's unfortunate that the default position is encroachments on rights, requiring active defense for their preservation.
Is anonymity really the solution? That basically says it's OK to say anything about anyone because there will never be any redress. I'd suggest that there should be some protection against defamation, the issue is that the laws that exist in the UK at the moment do a poor job of differentiating between defending against genuine defamation and what is frankly an abuse of process (using the process and it's associated…
1. UK != England and Wales. (Scottish law is radically different -- based on defamation rather than libel/slander -- and oddly enough, Scotland isn't a libel shopping destination.)
2. The English libel law (which is what's up for reform this year) was pushed through in the 18th century as an alternative to the dueling field for blue-bloods with swords to defend their honour. It succeeded admirably in reducing the death rate, but the challenge/defense model implicit in a mediated replacement for dueling between peers doesn't transfer well to a situation where we have corporations using it as a vehicle for SLAPPs.
I'd really like to see, as a principle of law, the axiom that corporations do not have a personal reputation that can be impugned-- that reputation only applies to living human beings. As an example of why, consider the McLibel Case: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/McLibel
Re: If you want fair libel law for the Internet age, get involved
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
Anonymity comes with a price though. You don't have any sort of reputation to build on when making claims about other people. If you want people to have more of a reason to believe what you say, putting your name on it should carry more weight. That should be the balance here.
You can build an anonymous reputation around a pseudonym.
That's not completely anonymous. Building up a reputation around a pseudonym increases the likelihood of something unmasking you.
Re: If you want fair libel law for the Internet age, get involved
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is anonymity really the solution? That basically says it's OK to say anything about anyone because there will never be any redress. I'd suggest that there should be some protection against defamation, the issue is that the laws that exist in the UK at the moment do a poor job of differentiating between defending against genuine defamation and what is frankly an abuse of process (using the process and it's associated…
1. UK != England and Wales. (Scottish law is radically different -- based on defamation rather than libel/slander -- and oddly enough, Scotland isn't a libel shopping destination.) 2. The English libel law (which is what's up for reform this year) was pushed through in the 18th century as an alternative to the dueling field for blue-bloods with swords to defend their honour. It succeeded admirably in reducing the dea…
Sorry, I live in Scotland but still get sloppy with UK / England.
Re: If you want fair libel law for the Internet age, get involved
#91. This is why anonymity is important online. 2. It's unfortunate that the default position is encroachments on rights, requiring active defense for their preservation.
Is anonymity really the solution? That basically says it's OK to say anything about anyone because there will never be any redress. I'd suggest that there should be some protection against defamation, the issue is that the laws that exist in the UK at the moment do a poor job of differentiating between defending against genuine defamation and what is frankly an abuse of process (using the process and it's associated…
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Re: If you want fair libel law for the Internet age, get involved
#10Whew! I thought this was for the US for a second. These really outta have country codes in the titles like [EU] [UK] [US].
I'm sure the rest of the world feels like everythings all fucked up when they see US headlines too... :D