DHH: The HEY stack Vanilla Ruby on Rails, MySQL, redis, stimulus, elastic search

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Post by Aduket » Thu, Jun 25, 2020, 4:31 PM UTC

DHH: The HEY stack Vanilla Ruby on Rails, MySQL, redis, stimulus, elastic search
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Post by gyanamo » Thu, Jun 25, 2020, 4:56 PM UTC

isn't "Vanilla Ruby on Rails" akin to "Vanilla Deluxe Chocolate Fudge Sundae"?

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Post by tmpz22 » Thu, Jun 25, 2020, 4:57 PM UTC

gyanamo wrote: post #2

isn't "Vanilla Ruby on Rails" akin to "Vanilla Deluxe Chocolate Fudge Sundae"?

Or the American “regular sized” soda which is the equivalent to an XXL soda anywhere else in the world.

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Post by amrrs » Thu, Jun 25, 2020, 4:58 PM UTC

Idk,I actually don't understand the obsession of many with Tech Stack or predicting the doom of a language. Because Facebook uses PHP for their service, Would you still use PHP? A lot of people despise PHP. But there's PH maker Mubs, most of his indie products LAMP stack. The main lesson I get from any of these is that pick the one that you're comfortable with and deliver the project than looking for what's the best tool in 2020

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Post by cookiecaper » Thu, Jun 25, 2020, 5:01 PM UTC

For more detail see the Gemfile for Hey [0], posted in a follow-up tweet. [1]

[0] https://gist.github.com/dhh/782fb925b57450da28c1e15656779556

[1] https://twitter.com/dhh/status/1275917612556226562

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Post by diminish » Thu, Jun 25, 2020, 5:01 PM UTC

> - MySQL for DB (Vitess for sharding)

Curious why not postgres?

Re: DHH: The HEY stack Vanilla Ruby on Rails, MySQL, redis, stimulus, elastic search

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Post by ChefboyOG » Thu, Jun 25, 2020, 5:02 PM UTC

amrrs wrote: post #4

Idk,I actually don't understand the obsession of many with Tech Stack or predicting the doom of a language. Because Facebook uses PHP for their service, Would you still use PHP? A lot of people despise PHP. But there's PH maker Mubs, most of his indie products LAMP stack. The main lesson I get from any of these is that pick the one that you're comfortable with and deliver the project than looking for what's the best…

Yeah, selecting a stack IMO has more to do with scoping your goals.

For example, if you are an indie dev who will be developing a project solo, pick whatever you're best at, because all that matters is the product.

If you're an open source project, that's a different story. If you're looking to hire engineers, also a different game. And if you're the creator of Ruby on Rails and have created a giant personal brand around being contrarian and ignoring the new-hotness in web dev, then your choice is made for you.

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Post by pell » Thu, Jun 25, 2020, 5:04 PM UTC

ChefboyOG wrote: post #7

amrrs wrote: post #4

Idk,I actually don't understand the obsession of many with Tech Stack or predicting the doom of a language. Because Facebook uses PHP for their service, Would you still use PHP? A lot of people despise PHP. But there's PH maker Mubs, most of his indie products LAMP stack. The main lesson I get from any of these is that pick the one that you're comfortable with and deliver the project than looking for what's the best…

Yeah, selecting a stack IMO has more to do with scoping your goals. For example, if you are an indie dev who will be developing a project solo, pick whatever you're best at, because all that matters is the product. If you're an open source project, that's a different story. If you're looking to hire engineers, also a different game. And if you're the creator of Ruby on Rails and have created a giant personal brand ar…

I wouldn't call DHH contrarian for sticking with a mature framework.

Re: DHH: The HEY stack Vanilla Ruby on Rails, MySQL, redis, stimulus, elastic search

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Post by nscalf » Thu, Jun 25, 2020, 5:04 PM UTC

amrrs wrote: post #4

Idk,I actually don't understand the obsession of many with Tech Stack or predicting the doom of a language. Because Facebook uses PHP for their service, Would you still use PHP? A lot of people despise PHP. But there's PH maker Mubs, most of his indie products LAMP stack. The main lesson I get from any of these is that pick the one that you're comfortable with and deliver the project than looking for what's the best…

I agree with you, for >95% of projects most of the tools available to you have reasonable upside and downside. If you were equally skilled in all options, it more or less doesn't matter what you pick. There are definitely problems, and entire fields (like hardware) where you don't have much of a choice due to the performance demands. But if you're building a small company or website, for the most part the dogmatism around the tools you use are nonsense, and just get in the way of getting stuff done.

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Post by mtmail » Thu, Jun 25, 2020, 5:05 PM UTC

gyanamo wrote: post #2

isn't "Vanilla Ruby on Rails" akin to "Vanilla Deluxe Chocolate Fudge Sundae"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanilla_software "when not customized from their original form, meaning that they are used without any customizations or updates applied to them"