Create No-JavaScript friendly sites
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Create No-JavaScript friendly sites
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Re: Create No-JavaScript friendly sites
#2I'd like to say that ship has sailed, but in this case it's more like the last rocket launched, Krypton was destroyed, and the last partisans of NoScript are trapped in the Dark Zone, or whatever the thing with General Zod was called. Not that big of a Superman fan.
Re: Create No-JavaScript friendly sites
#3One of the biggest annoyances is sites that use stylesheets to blank out the page until Javascript removes that style. I think this is to stop "flash of unstyled content" stuff that I really don't care about, but it's also trivially solvable by having Javascript add the style in question in the first place.
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#4I'd like to say that ship has sailed, but in this case it's more like the last rocket launched, Krypton was destroyed, and the last partisans of NoScript are trapped in the Dark Zone, or whatever the thing with General Zod was called. Not that big of a Superman fan.
Though if some people want to make websites for the 0.4% of clients that won't allow JavaScript to load, I hope they enjoy their niche hobby.
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#5I'd like to say that ship has sailed, but in this case it's more like the last rocket launched, Krypton was destroyed, and the last partisans of NoScript are trapped in the Dark Zone, or whatever the thing with General Zod was called. Not that big of a Superman fan.
Yup, not enabling javascript is akin to using an outdated browser for better or for worse.
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#6I'd like to say that ship has sailed, but in this case it's more like the last rocket launched, Krypton was destroyed, and the last partisans of NoScript are trapped in the Dark Zone, or whatever the thing with General Zod was called. Not that big of a Superman fan.
Yup, not enabling javascript is akin to using an outdated browser for better or for worse.
Disabling Javascript makes video game wikis, recipe webpages and news articles far more usable for me. The primary content of these pages is text written in HTML, and leaving Javascript on means that the ads will make the webpage clunky, scroll badly and occasionally consume enough memory to crash the tab.
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#7I agree with the author, and think this is important. But I also want to point out JS enables one to build interesting sites without a backend, by relying on data from third party APIs. Being able to quickly do "mashup" sites like this can be pretty great. The time it takes to build them is usually quite short, and the hosting is almost always free.
As an example, I am currently building this site, https://mi-cov.com, which I can host for free since the data comes from a government API. (The site is not done yet, I'm aware of the various issues it has)
Re: Create No-JavaScript friendly sites
#8People like interactive sites which give immediate visual feedback for actions.
Aside from the tracking stuff it's a better user experience, so it's unlikely to go away, especially if the demand for no-js is tiny.
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#9I'd like to say that ship has sailed, but in this case it's more like the last rocket launched, Krypton was destroyed, and the last partisans of NoScript are trapped in the Dark Zone, or whatever the thing with General Zod was called. Not that big of a Superman fan.
I am one of those dinosaurs that still surf with javascript (mostly) disabled. I use uMatrix to control where I accept it from and my default is to allow none to load.
A remarkable amount of sites still work and you will always need to load some to get certain functions to work.
However, I am always amazed how lazy devs are when it comes to purely informational sites as there should be no need to require javascript. Sure, it might help with certain cosmetics but the people who disable javascript rarely care about cosmetics (it is nice, sure, but if you cannot view the site without enabling a bunch of untrusted code to run on you computer then I really must want to visit it to enable it and reload the page).
Hackernews, LWN, arstechnica are all sites that works really well without javascript enabled (ars needs it for comments, but I rarely comment so if I want to I can enable then). Reddit and many more sites somewhat needs to it but you can usually see the interesting bits without it, so if you are invested or a common visitor it is easy to enable the few needed.
If you are directing your content towards the technical community, my advise would be to definitely test it without Javascript, preferably in a text only browser also. It does not need to look super pretty in these modes, but it should work. This is probably also a good foundation to provide the content to groups that uses accessibility software (think blind), but I do not know how well those tools handle JavaScript-dependant content.
Re: Create No-JavaScript friendly sites
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yup, not enabling javascript is akin to using an outdated browser for better or for worse.
Disabling Javascript makes video game wikis, recipe webpages and news articles far more usable for me. The primary content of these pages is text written in HTML, and leaving Javascript on means that the ads will make the webpage clunky, scroll badly and occasionally consume enough memory to crash the tab.
But the sites need revenue too, so the way to make ads go away is coming up with a ubiquitous micropayment system which can compensate the site editors if no ad is shown.