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Re: P2P Matrix

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>"P2P Matrix is about more than just letting users store their own conversations: it can also avoid dependencies on the Internet itself by working over local networks, mesh networks, or situations where the Internet has been cut off."

Which makes it interesting, and worth learning about.

Re: P2P Matrix

#3

>"P2P Matrix is about more than just letting users store their own conversations: it can also avoid dependencies on the Internet itself by working over local networks, mesh networks, or situations where the Internet has been cut off." Which makes it interesting, and worth learning about.

This makes me wonder: isn't this basically the perfect thing to bootstrap a decentralized DNS with? In a messaging system there's no reason you'd ever want to revoke control of a domain, and the idea of genuinely-anonymizable communication should be appealing to just about anyone.

I might not be thinking broadly enough here though.

Re: P2P Matrix

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post #3

>"P2P Matrix is about more than just letting users store their own conversations: it can also avoid dependencies on the Internet itself by working over local networks, mesh networks, or situations where the Internet has been cut off." Which makes it interesting, and worth learning about.

This makes me wonder: isn't this basically the perfect thing to bootstrap a decentralized DNS with? In a messaging system there's no reason you'd ever want to revoke control of a domain, and the idea of genuinely-anonymizable communication should be appealing to just about anyone. I might not be thinking broadly enough here though.

Digging a little into the posts about HOW they setup the communication channel does seem like it could be used to inform a system for that. So Kinda?

Re: P2P Matrix

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>"P2P Matrix is about more than just letting users store their own conversations: it can also avoid dependencies on the Internet itself by working over local networks, mesh networks, or situations where the Internet has been cut off." Which makes it interesting, and worth learning about.

I’ve been interested in adhoc mesh networking for a while but I don’t really know where to get started software or hardware wise. I have lots of OpenWRT compatible equipment lying around and want to experiment.

I feel like internet blackouts are not a distant idea or all that improbable and I want to have some knowledge in my back pocket just in case.

Re: P2P Matrix

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post #3

>"P2P Matrix is about more than just letting users store their own conversations: it can also avoid dependencies on the Internet itself by working over local networks, mesh networks, or situations where the Internet has been cut off." Which makes it interesting, and worth learning about.

This makes me wonder: isn't this basically the perfect thing to bootstrap a decentralized DNS with? In a messaging system there's no reason you'd ever want to revoke control of a domain, and the idea of genuinely-anonymizable communication should be appealing to just about anyone. I might not be thinking broadly enough here though.

It may not be satisfactory in terms of performance though. Decentralization comes with its own baggage.

Re: P2P Matrix

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post #3

>"P2P Matrix is about more than just letting users store their own conversations: it can also avoid dependencies on the Internet itself by working over local networks, mesh networks, or situations where the Internet has been cut off." Which makes it interesting, and worth learning about.

This makes me wonder: isn't this basically the perfect thing to bootstrap a decentralized DNS with? In a messaging system there's no reason you'd ever want to revoke control of a domain, and the idea of genuinely-anonymizable communication should be appealing to just about anyone. I might not be thinking broadly enough here though.

>there's no reason you'd ever want to revoke control of a domain

Careful with those words. Experience taught me that if there isn't a reason to ever want to do that, reality will eventually provide you with one.

Re: P2P Matrix

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post #7
post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This makes me wonder: isn't this basically the perfect thing to bootstrap a decentralized DNS with? In a messaging system there's no reason you'd ever want to revoke control of a domain, and the idea of genuinely-anonymizable communication should be appealing to just about anyone. I might not be thinking broadly enough here though.

>there's no reason you'd ever want to revoke control of a domain Careful with those words. Experience taught me that if there isn't a reason to ever want to do that, reality will eventually provide you with one.

Worst possible case you can drop the messages from a domain, which is how federated systems already work.

There's no reason to ever revoke control for messaging systems, though, genuinely: imagine if your e-mail address could be taken on a whim by anyone. It can be! But you'd never want to revoke control of a domain rather than just marking it as spam or illegal and dropping messages from it. It functions as an inbox more than it functions as an outbox.

Addressing space should be permanent.

Re: P2P Matrix

#10
Hi @Arathorn, any work on using IPFS as the media store? It seems like this would be also a really good project for Matrix and doubly so for p2p matrix...
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