Factors associated with Covid-19 deaths in records of 17M adult NHS patients

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Post by gandalfian » Fri, May 15, 2020, 2:20 PM UTC

Factors associated with Covid-19 deaths in records of 17M adult NHS patients
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Post by gandalfian » Fri, May 15, 2020, 2:20 PM UTC

https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2020/05/14/... https://t.co/j1n12eyz7Y?amp=1 Datamining 17 million NHS records to find Coronavirus factors.

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Post by verdverm » Fri, May 15, 2020, 5:13 PM UTC

Given "AI's" inability to understand time and temporal relations, and given the incredible amount of hidden dynamics and game theory in economics, just going to go ahead and facepalm

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Post by legerdemain » Fri, May 15, 2020, 6:40 PM UTC

Notably, this research is being publicized by Ben Goldacre of Bad Science (among other accomplishments). Goldacre also gets last author on the non-alphabetized list of authors on the preprint, suggesting his primary involvement.

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Post by gandalfian » Fri, May 15, 2020, 8:50 PM UTC

gandalfian wrote: post #2

https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2020/05/14/... https://t.co/j1n12eyz7Y?amp=1 Datamining 17 million NHS records to find Coronavirus factors.

Sorry my links seem to have gone wrong try https://outline.com/YNRSgm

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Post by gandalfian » Fri, May 15, 2020, 8:57 PM UTC

verdverm wrote: post #3

Given "AI's" inability to understand time and temporal relations, and given the incredible amount of hidden dynamics and game theory in economics, just going to go ahead and facepalm

Sorry, what are you saying? This is Epidemiologyists doing statistical analysis of a vast data set. Where does the ai come in?

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Post by gandalfian » Fri, May 15, 2020, 8:59 PM UTC

legerdemain wrote: post #4

Notably, this research is being publicized by Ben Goldacre of Bad Science (among other accomplishments). Goldacre also gets last author on the non-alphabetized list of authors on the preprint, suggesting his primary involvement.

Yes he is an Epidemiologist by profession and I think it is his team that came up with the way to access medical data. I tried to get it in the title but it seems to have been edited out.

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Post by verdverm » Fri, May 15, 2020, 11:42 PM UTC

gandalfian wrote: post #6

verdverm wrote: post #3

Given "AI's" inability to understand time and temporal relations, and given the incredible amount of hidden dynamics and game theory in economics, just going to go ahead and facepalm

Sorry, what are you saying? This is Epidemiologyists doing statistical analysis of a vast data set. Where does the ai come in?

Oh, it looks like fat fingers on a phone. I'm not even aware of this OP

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Post by verdverm » Fri, May 15, 2020, 11:47 PM UTC

verdverm wrote: post #8

gandalfian wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, what are you saying? This is Epidemiologyists doing statistical analysis of a vast data set. Where does the ai come in?

Oh, it looks like fat fingers on a phone. I'm not even aware of this OP

This is the one I meant to comment on https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23192492

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Post by MontagFTB » Sat, May 16, 2020, 2:26 AM UTC

From the paper:

> The overall cumulative incidence of COVID-19 hospital death at 80 days from the study start date was How do those rates compare to the seasonal flu in the UK?