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Re: Ohio Prison Death Updates [pdf]

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17 days ago we heard that 3,330 inmates tested positive, 96% without symptoms.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22980932

There was much speculation, but many people agreed that in 2 weeks we would have super interesting data.

It's been 17 days. We have an update from ohio.gov that tested individuals climbed to 7536, 4439 are positive (59%), total 49 deaths (.01)

Not an epidemiologist. Does this data fit the Diamond Princess model? Or more broadly, which model fits this data best?

Is there other data to show how many became symptomatic? How do we interpret this update, more than 2 weeks after initial reports?

Re: Ohio Prison Death Updates [pdf]

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17 days ago we heard that 3,330 inmates tested positive, 96% without symptoms. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22980932 There was much speculation, but many people agreed that in 2 weeks we would have super interesting data. It's been 17 days. We have an update from ohio.gov that tested individuals climbed to 7536, 4439 are positive (59%), total 49 deaths (.01) Not an epidemiologist. Does this data fit the Diamo…

Diamond Princess had a far higher percentage of older (over 70) people. I also would like to know if the HVAC system is as centralize in a prison as it is on a cruise ship.

Re: Ohio Prison Death Updates [pdf]

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Considering they probably tested everyone so there are no unrecorded cases, a 1% death rate is pretty much in line with studies finding the CFR to be in the 0.5-1.5% neighborhood [1,2]. I would guess they are younger on average, but the prison population probably has some risk factors in terms of nutrition, insufficient Vitamin D, lack of exercise, etc.

[1] https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1327 [2] https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.14.20062463v...

Re: Ohio Prison Death Updates [pdf]

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30 of the deaths are at PCI, which is basically a nursing home for older prisoners.

EDIT: “Marion houses a high number of older individuals, many who have pre-existing health conditions. Pickaway houses our long-term-care center similar to a nursing home, and Franklin is our state prison medical center.”

Marion is 25% of the deaths. Pickaway 59%. And Franklin 10%.

Re: Ohio Prison Death Updates [pdf]

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17 days ago we heard that 3,330 inmates tested positive, 96% without symptoms. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22980932 There was much speculation, but many people agreed that in 2 weeks we would have super interesting data. It's been 17 days. We have an update from ohio.gov that tested individuals climbed to 7536, 4439 are positive (59%), total 49 deaths (.01) Not an epidemiologist. Does this data fit the Diamo…

I'd like to know the ages of the deceased, and if they had any other serious health issues. If the majority of the deceased are indeed old or in poor health, perhaps isolating those from the general prison population would be a prudent precautionary measure to implement.

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I'd also be interested in how many have detrimental side effects from the virus, after recovery. Mostly all I see from covid numbers are black & white: died/recovered.

There was an article recently on HN that talked about the possible lasting effects of the virus[0]. I am interested to know how frequently lasting effects occur

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23127167

Re: Ohio Prison Death Updates [pdf]

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17 days ago we heard that 3,330 inmates tested positive, 96% without symptoms. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22980932 There was much speculation, but many people agreed that in 2 weeks we would have super interesting data. It's been 17 days. We have an update from ohio.gov that tested individuals climbed to 7536, 4439 are positive (59%), total 49 deaths (.01) Not an epidemiologist. Does this data fit the Diamo…

Diamond Princess had a far higher percentage of older (over 70) people. I also would like to know if the HVAC system is as centralize in a prison as it is on a cruise ship.

HVAC is not the problem.

The problem is that prisoners routinely share common spaces. It doesn't matter how the air circulates, when they all cook, eat, work, shower, and exercise in the exact same communal rooms.

Combine that with insufficient sanitation, and it's a miracle that only half of them got sick.

Re: Ohio Prison Death Updates [pdf]

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Considering they probably tested everyone so there are no unrecorded cases, a 1% death rate is pretty much in line with studies finding the CFR to be in the 0.5-1.5% neighborhood [1,2]. I would guess they are younger on average, but the prison population probably has some risk factors in terms of nutrition, insufficient Vitamin D, lack of exercise, etc. [1] https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1327 [2] https://www.me…

They tested 7541 people out of 39,082 inmates in quarantine. These numbers aren't inclusive of staff -- 556 tested positive, but how many were tested? Are staff quarantined to prevent spreading the infection out of the prisons?

The most recent information I could find says that Ohio has 48,765 inmates in total. They have quarantined 80% of prisoners and tested 15%. Their infection numbers are likely artificially low due to asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic cases.

Re: Ohio Prison Death Updates [pdf]

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I'd also be interested in how many have detrimental side effects from the virus, after recovery. Mostly all I see from covid numbers are black & white: died/recovered. There was an article recently on HN that talked about the possible lasting effects of the virus[0]. I am interested to know how frequently lasting effects occur [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23127167

The National Geographic article from a few months ago covers the lasting effects much better.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/02/here-is-w...

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