28M Mail-In Ballots Went Missing in Last Four Elections
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28M Mail-In Ballots Went Missing in Last Four Elections
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#3USPS's UAA (undelivered as addressed) rate for first class mail is ~1%. Both ways. Something for postal ballot advocates to consider. Make sure your jurisdictions have online ballot trackers.
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#4> This figure does not include ballots that were spoiled, undeliverable, or came back for any reason.
Re: 28M Mail-In Ballots Went Missing in Last Four Elections
#5Unreturned (uncast) ballots are not "missing". USPS's UAA (undelivered as addressed) rate for first class mail is ~1%. Both ways. Something for postal ballot advocates to consider. Make sure your jurisdictions have online ballot trackers.
These "improvements" are anything but.
If we value the integrity of our elections, we need to minimize the amount of metadata generated.
You need:
- a small pollbook of legal voters
- a location for those voters to obtain and secretly mark a paper ballot
- a means to cast that ballot and tally that polling place's numbers
- a chain of custody for all ballots that protects the election's legitimacy
Elections, and the political power that they grant, demand that we curb our natural tendency to over-engineer systems.
The more shiny, spiffy gadgets and doo-dads we apply to this process, the greater the harm its legitimacy.
If you want, I can flog this dead horse all the way down to glue.
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#6Blaming “ballot harvesting” on Hillary Clinton winning three popular vote is really something.
More philosophically, when one's voting agency is shared with another person, as is the case in ballot harvesting, the opportunity for abuse multiplies. This is why most states have outlawed ballot harvesting.
Consider: I come to your door with a ballot. You had not thought about voting because you didn't particularly care about the candidates, but I am an agent for candidate A and because I got to you before the agent for candidate B, I convince you - good salesman that I am - to vote for someone you wouldn't have otherwise.
Thus the voting process become less about what the voters themselves think or care about and more about which candidate has the most resources to send agents out to ballot harvest.
The corruption that such practices invite completely undermine the voting process and it is only with a blatant disregard for the voting process - a fixation on power above principle - that a state would allow such practices.
Re: 28M Mail-In Ballots Went Missing in Last Four Elections
#7The 28 million ballots in question aren't "missing"; they're ballots that were mailed to voters and weren't used.
In some cases the voters in question likely didn't bother voting (common in local elections) or simply forgot (I've done this when I accidentally stacked other mail on top of a ballot and then didn't find it again until too late). In other cases, voters may have moved and failed to update their voter registration. This situation isn't unusual or alarming, and the opportunities for fraud aren't nearly as plentiful as the article tries to imply.
The article cites a 2008 report by the CalTech/MIT Voting Technology Project as recommending that states abolish absentee voting due to fraud concerns, but that report contains only a single paragraph proposing a theoretical _potential_ for fraud due to "unsecured" mail channels. It provides no evidence that this is common or has even occurred, and in fact devotes significantly more space to discussing the inconvenience of mail-in punch-card ballots with Styrofoam backings — something I had never heard of despite having voted by mail for almost two decades.
The article also cites a 2008 Reed College study, which again raises theoretical concerns about fraud but offers no substantive evidence that it's an issue, and in fact states that "A report commissioned by the federal Election Assistance Commission, authored by Tova Wang and Jed Seberov, concluded, on the basis of interviews with experts in the area, that there was little evidence of voter fraud."
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#9Blaming “ballot harvesting” on Hillary Clinton winning three popular vote is really something.
Well it's certainly part of the reason. More philosophically, when one's voting agency is shared with another person, as is the case in ballot harvesting, the opportunity for abuse multiplies. This is why most states have outlawed ballot harvesting. Consider: I come to your door with a ballot. You had not thought about voting because you didn't particularly care about the candidates, but I am an agent for candidate A…
How's that an argument against ballot harvesting? That's exactly how political campaigning and elections work. Spread over several weeks or moths, of course. In fact official campaigns are much worse because when this door-to-door salesman talks to a voter he's not in a position to make promises that must be funded by money taken from other people.
That's an argument against democracy and centralization and the way to fix that problem is to decentralize and eliminate multiple layers of government.
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#10There's nothing magic about ballot sheets. Anyone could run off as many as they want on a copier. What protects elections in vote by mail systems is the fact that you can check your ballot status and everyone can only vote once. If you steal my ballot, I get a replacement and we both vote, that will be flagged. Plus you need to know how to forge my signature, which they do check.
everyone can only vote once
Does your registrar even check that? SV's doesn't even check if a given voter voted both precinct and absentee or if one voted in multiple precincts (e.g. prior and current neighborhood after a move to another precinct). They don't even check for existing registration in other precincts (let alone counties) unless the voter explicitly provides prior-address data.