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Re: MsQuic – QUIC Implementation from Microsoft

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Post by battery_cowboy »

simonw wrote: post #3

MIT licensed cross-platform C. Ten years ago I wouldn't have believed it. Today it's not even surprising. I really like this version of Microsoft.

I'm with you, and I'm happy that it seems like they are trying to become a good steward in the software industry. I am impressed by the quality of Windows 10, up to about a year ago I used Linux daily because it was a better experience than Windows 98 through 8.1, until recently. Lately, I find it's way easier to run Windows 10 with WSL rather than screw around with Linux trying to get things to work correctly that I just plug in to Windows.

I hope they start giving more control to us, though, because I'm tired of having to firewall block telemetry and forced to have Cortana installed or whatever other garbage. If Microsoft allowed me to install Windows like I do Debian, where I can pick my packages and leave out what I don't want, and they also allowed for replacement APIs, so I could swap explorer.exe for my own version for example, I'd never use Linux again. But that'll never happen, so I'll just use tools to block that stuff for now and hope the Linux experience catches up.

Re: MsQuic – QUIC Implementation from Microsoft

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Post by gravypod »

slowstart wrote: post #4

Please fire away any questions you may have! I lead the team that built this library. This blog has details on current development status and adoption within Microsoft: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/networking-blog/msqui...

Sorry, this might be a bit off topic but it's something I've been excited about for a while. From what I've heard Microsoft is sort of getting behind gRPC. Have you tested using QUIC as a transport layer for the gRPC client/server libraries that MS maintains? Are you seeing notable performance benefits with QUIC as the underlying channel?

Re: MsQuic – QUIC Implementation from Microsoft

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Post by slowstart »

gravypod wrote: post #6
slowstart wrote: post #4

Please fire away any questions you may have! I lead the team that built this library. This blog has details on current development status and adoption within Microsoft: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/networking-blog/msqui...

Sorry, this might be a bit off topic but it's something I've been excited about for a while. From what I've heard Microsoft is sort of getting behind gRPC. Have you tested using QUIC as a transport layer for the gRPC client/server libraries that MS maintains? Are you seeing notable performance benefits with QUIC as the underlying channel?

RPC/gRPC are certainly possible use cases for the QUIC transport protocol. But no, we have not yet explored the use of QUIC in this context. For now we are focused on workloads that will benefit the most from the tail latency performance and security improvements that QUIC brings.

Re: MsQuic – QUIC Implementation from Microsoft

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Post by vorpalhex »

battery_cowboy wrote: post #5
simonw wrote: post #3

MIT licensed cross-platform C. Ten years ago I wouldn't have believed it. Today it's not even surprising. I really like this version of Microsoft.

I'm with you, and I'm happy that it seems like they are trying to become a good steward in the software industry. I am impressed by the quality of Windows 10, up to about a year ago I used Linux daily because it was a better experience than Windows 98 through 8.1, until recently. Lately, I find it's way easier to run Windows 10 with WSL rather than screw around with Linux trying to get things to work correctly that I…

Even during the evil days Microsoft occasionally produced great software like Microsoft Money.

Like any large corporation, MS is not a single cohesive entity and I suspect the Win10 group pushing metrics and Cortana is not the same folks writing nifty quic implementations.

Re: MsQuic – QUIC Implementation from Microsoft

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Post by tialaramex »

slowstart wrote: post #4

Please fire away any questions you may have! I lead the team that built this library. This blog has details on current development status and adoption within Microsoft: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/networking-blog/msqui...

Any strong reasons you chose C?

Maybe I skimmed too quickly but I didn't see this mentioned in that blog post.

Was there a requirement from other teams?

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