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Spain is moving to permanently establish universal basic income

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Re: Spain is moving to permanently establish universal basic income

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Nadia Calviño.. I read that name recently. Oh wait

> "Europe must respond united to the crisis," Nadia Calvino said in an interview with radio station Onda Cero. "I don't give up. We still think that, eventually, there must be a system of debt sharing, be they eurobonds, coronabonds or reconstruction bonds."

https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/04/01/world/europe/01re...

Re: Spain is moving to permanently establish universal basic income

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Isn’t one of the central selling point of UBI that it would replace the existing welfare state with one single payment? What’s the likelihood that countries that implement this just tack it on the existing welfare state as yet another payment? I’m putting that is almost a certainty.

Re: Spain is moving to permanently establish universal basic income

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https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22795358 (57 comments, 20 hours ago) I think the general view is "some ministers in Spain would like to implement UBI" How that works, especially with freedom of movement from the rest of the EU, is anyones guess

Presumably it would be citizens rather than residents.

Re: Spain is moving to permanently establish universal basic income

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post #2

Nadia Calviño.. I read that name recently. Oh wait > "Europe must respond united to the crisis," Nadia Calvino said in an interview with radio station Onda Cero. "I don't give up. We still think that, eventually, there must be a system of debt sharing, be they eurobonds, coronabonds or reconstruction bonds." https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/04/01/world/europe/01re...

Having a shared debt but not shared fiscal policies across the board. What could go wrong.

Re: Spain is moving to permanently establish universal basic income

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Isn’t one of the central selling point of UBI that it would replace the existing welfare state with one single payment? What’s the likelihood that countries that implement this just tack it on the existing welfare state as yet another payment? I’m putting that is almost a certainty.

> I’m putting that is almost a certainty.

Why? States aren't made of infinite money.

Re: Spain is moving to permanently establish universal basic income

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post #3

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22795358 (57 comments, 20 hours ago) I think the general view is "some ministers in Spain would like to implement UBI" How that works, especially with freedom of movement from the rest of the EU, is anyones guess

Presumably it would be citizens rather than residents.

I'm not sure that would be legal, would it?

I think there was a test case in 2015 that said you could have tests that a resident was not there just to claim benefit, but I think the point was that it was illegal to just completely restrict a benefit to your own citizens.

Re: Spain is moving to permanently establish universal basic income

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Isn’t one of the central selling point of UBI that it would replace the existing welfare state with one single payment? What’s the likelihood that countries that implement this just tack it on the existing welfare state as yet another payment? I’m putting that is almost a certainty.

> I’m putting that is almost a certainty. Why? States aren't made of infinite money.

Actually...
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