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Taiwan’s government bars its agencies from using Zoom over security concerns

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Re: Taiwan’s government bars its agencies from using Zoom over security concerns

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I find it quite surprising that government agencies around the world are even considering using a US/Chinese-hosted video-conferencing system. Both countries have a long history of spying on pretty much all foreign nations wherever possible.

US also used German companies for spying. So I guess there is no escape.

Re: Taiwan’s government bars its agencies from using Zoom over security concerns

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I find it quite surprising that government agencies around the world are even considering using a US/Chinese-hosted video-conferencing system. Both countries have a long history of spying on pretty much all foreign nations wherever possible.

US also used German companies for spying. So I guess there is no escape.

The 'escape' is for governments to have their own semi-competent IT departments that can maintain the digital infrastructure needed to run the government.

It almost seems like a pipe dream.

Re: Taiwan’s government bars its agencies from using Zoom over security concerns

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I find it quite surprising that government agencies around the world are even considering using a US/Chinese-hosted video-conferencing system. Both countries have a long history of spying on pretty much all foreign nations wherever possible.

US also used German companies for spying. So I guess there is no escape.

AFAIK Crytpo AG was swiss

Re: Taiwan’s government bars its agencies from using Zoom over security concerns

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

US also used German companies for spying. So I guess there is no escape.

The 'escape' is for governments to have their own semi-competent IT departments that can maintain the digital infrastructure needed to run the government. It almost seems like a pipe dream.

Do you mean exactly what China has done with its semi-nationalized technology companies?

Re: Taiwan’s government bars its agencies from using Zoom over security concerns

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I find it quite surprising that government agencies around the world are even considering using a US/Chinese-hosted video-conferencing system. Both countries have a long history of spying on pretty much all foreign nations wherever possible.

US also used German companies for spying. So I guess there is no escape.

What about free software?

Re: Taiwan’s government bars its agencies from using Zoom over security concerns

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I find it quite surprising that government agencies around the world are even considering using a US/Chinese-hosted video-conferencing system. Both countries have a long history of spying on pretty much all foreign nations wherever possible.

One way to solve this is to not ask customers to trust blindly.

For Webex Teams, the customers can run their own key management server[1]. Traffic gets decrypted using customer-controlled keys running on their own hardware.

For Webex Meetings the media traffic can be encrypted end to end[2]. Of course it breaks all cloud-based features (network recordings, transcriptions, join via web...) but for some users that is the better choice.

[1] https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cloudCol...

[2] https://help.webex.com/en-us/WBX44739/What-Does-End-to-End-E...

Re: Taiwan’s government bars its agencies from using Zoom over security concerns

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post #2

I find it quite surprising that government agencies around the world are even considering using a US/Chinese-hosted video-conferencing system. Both countries have a long history of spying on pretty much all foreign nations wherever possible.

US also used German companies for spying. So I guess there is no escape.

Escape is self-hosted system

Re: Taiwan’s government bars its agencies from using Zoom over security concerns

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I find it quite surprising that government agencies around the world are even considering using a US/Chinese-hosted video-conferencing system. Both countries have a long history of spying on pretty much all foreign nations wherever possible.

Everyone spies on everyone. Governments know this. The necessity of using home grown communication is obvious.
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