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Beta for WARP for macOS and Windows

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Re: Beta for WARP for macOS and Windows

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Post by steveklabnik »

One of the fun things about working at a place is you get to try stuff out early; as a Windows user, I was one of the first folks outside of the team to try out Warp for Windows.

I would say "I'm happy to answer questions" but I'm not sure what I could answer; for a while now, I frankly forget that I have it even installed. It pretty much Just Works.

Re: Beta for WARP for macOS and Windows

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Post by jedieaston »

splitrocket wrote: post #3

Can I run my own WARP server? If not, I'm not that interested. If I'm trading one centralized service for another, there is no net gain.

It's just Wireguard that doesn't route to Cloudflare servers and that's pretty easy to setup with Docker or algo or whatever. But self-hosting a VPN for privacy is questionable as to how much it helps (since the VPN server is probably sitting on your home network unless you put it in AWS/Digital Ocean/Azure).

(if the address you are trying to go to is hosted by Cloudflare, they route it using your normal connection so that it'll be quicker than going an additional couple hops to the WARP server and then to the Cloudflare dc nearest to the WARP server. you could say that this kills the privacy argument, but using their VPN at all means they can see what sites you are going to, so you'd already be trusting that they don't log.)

Re: Beta for WARP for macOS and Windows

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Post by Cyberdog »

steveklabnik wrote: post #2

One of the fun things about working at a place is you get to try stuff out early; as a Windows user, I was one of the first folks outside of the team to try out Warp for Windows. I would say "I'm happy to answer questions" but I'm not sure what I could answer; for a while now, I frankly forget that I have it even installed. It pretty much Just Works.

Here's a question. I've read the article twice and I can't figure out what the product is. What is it? Is it a VPN service?

Re: Beta for WARP for macOS and Windows

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Post by steveklabnik »

Cyberdog wrote: post #7
steveklabnik wrote: post #2

One of the fun things about working at a place is you get to try stuff out early; as a Windows user, I was one of the first folks outside of the team to try out Warp for Windows. I would say "I'm happy to answer questions" but I'm not sure what I could answer; for a while now, I frankly forget that I have it even installed. It pretty much Just Works.

Here's a question. I've read the article twice and I can't figure out what the product is. What is it? Is it a VPN service?

So, 1.1.1.1 is Cloudflare's public DNS resolver. It's the fastest resolver on Earth: https://www.dnsperf.com/#!dns-resolvers It's fast because Cloudflare has 200 data centers all over the globe, and you connect to the nearest one.

Warp is a set of apps that will set your phone (and with this, today, your computer) to use 1.1.1.1 for resolving your DNS. But additionally, it uses the Wireguard protocol to connect, which is a VPN protocol. This hides the contents of your connection from your ISP or network provider. It does mean you're connecting to Cloudflare, and so we've made a bunch of privacy commitments, and gotten external auditing to back those up: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22747770

The above is all free. You can pay a small subscription fee to get access to Warp+, which uses Cloudflare's "Argo" product to route your requests faster.

Does that make more sense?

Re: Beta for WARP for macOS and Windows

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Post by zamadatix »

Cyberdog wrote: post #7
steveklabnik wrote: post #2

One of the fun things about working at a place is you get to try stuff out early; as a Windows user, I was one of the first folks outside of the team to try out Warp for Windows. I would say "I'm happy to answer questions" but I'm not sure what I could answer; for a while now, I frankly forget that I have it even installed. It pretty much Just Works.

Here's a question. I've read the article twice and I can't figure out what the product is. What is it? Is it a VPN service?

It's Wireguard to the nearest Cloudflare node. WARP+ is the same but will route your traffic over their private infrastructure for parts of the journey where they think it's faster/better than the normal internet path.

Re: Beta for WARP for macOS and Windows

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Post by jlgaddis »

steveklabnik wrote: post #8
Cyberdog wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's a question. I've read the article twice and I can't figure out what the product is. What is it? Is it a VPN service?

So, 1.1.1.1 is Cloudflare's public DNS resolver. It's the fastest resolver on Earth: https://www.dnsperf.com/#!dns-resolvers It's fast because Cloudflare has 200 data centers all over the globe, and you connect to the nearest one. Warp is a set of apps that will set your phone (and with this, today, your computer) to use 1.1.1.1 for resolving your DNS. But additionally, it uses the Wireguard protocol to connect, whic…

So... DNS (via Cloudflare) over Wireguard?
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