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RFC: Adopt a modern JavaScript framework for use with MediaWiki

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Re: RFC: Adopt a modern JavaScript framework for use with MediaWiki

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Post by lwansbrough »

We adopted Vue for the same reason. We had a large ASP.NET + jQuery code base which we were able to enhance with Vue.js over time. Eventually we built an SPA code base and porting over our existing components was a breeze.

I’ve used React extensively but I agree with their assessment that the API is a moving target, which ends up being horrific DX when you’re using third party libraries.

Re: RFC: Adopt a modern JavaScript framework for use with MediaWiki

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Post by eknkc »

Well I guess you can not go wrong with either React or Vue at this point as they have mature communities.

However I feel like while React is just fantastic on its corner, Svelte seems like a better built Vue than Vue. It lacks the community but technically feels like a refinement and enhancement of Vue’s ideas. I wish it would gain more traction.

Re: RFC: Adopt a modern JavaScript framework for use with MediaWiki

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Post by 112 »

I've loved Vue for a long time, worked two years with it almost daily, but right now I avoid it as much as I can, as I can't stand working with JavaScript without TypeScript. The TypeScript support in the current version of Vue is crap, and the simplest things, such as creating a (typed) component library, are hard and require numerous hacks.

If I were to use something that lacks TypeScript support, it would be Svelte, because it brings unique advantages. By adding hooks, React became the winner for me.

Angular has never been an option for me.

Re: RFC: Adopt a modern JavaScript framework for use with MediaWiki

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Post by sdan »

eknkc wrote: post #4

Well I guess you can not go wrong with either React or Vue at this point as they have mature communities. However I feel like while React is just fantastic on its corner, Svelte seems like a better built Vue than Vue. It lacks the community but technically feels like a refinement and enhancement of Vue’s ideas. I wish it would gain more traction.

+1 on Svelte. Seems like the better/faster option.

Re: RFC: Adopt a modern JavaScript framework for use with MediaWiki

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Post by woutr_be »

eknkc wrote: post #4

Well I guess you can not go wrong with either React or Vue at this point as they have mature communities. However I feel like while React is just fantastic on its corner, Svelte seems like a better built Vue than Vue. It lacks the community but technically feels like a refinement and enhancement of Vue’s ideas. I wish it would gain more traction.

To me the difference is that Svelte is a lot more pure JavaScript than Vue. I haven't had the chance to use it in any larger project, but in my small playgrounds, I've definitely enjoyed it more than Vue.

Re: RFC: Adopt a modern JavaScript framework for use with MediaWiki

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Post by jeswin »

I looked at Vue.js and came away with the impression that it requires me to learn a lot of framework-specific implementation details. For instance, a list requires that you know the v-for directive, while in React it's just JavaScript's Array::map().

Couldn't see the value there.

Re: RFC: Adopt a modern JavaScript framework for use with MediaWiki

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Post by martin_a »

jeswin wrote: post #9

I looked at Vue.js and came away with the impression that it requires me to learn a lot of framework-specific implementation details. For instance, a list requires that you know the v-for directive, while in React it's just JavaScript's Array::map(). Couldn't see the value there.

Right now, Corona made some time for that, I'm rewriting something I tried to do in Vue. I don't work with Vue daily and that makes it real hard to do even the simplest things. I'm back to vanilla JS, few sprinkles of jQuery and HTML5. Works well for me.
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