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TikTok told moderators to suppress posts by “ugly” people and the poor

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Re: TikTok told moderators to suppress posts by “ugly” people and the poor

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Certain people can try to turn this into a controversy in our modern hypersensitive hysteria, but this is perfectly sensible and reasonable behavior.

Users want to see attractive, popular, charismatic, entertaining people. They want to be like them. They want to see more of them. TikTok isn't interested in turning off its userbase, no matter how much your sociopolitical agenda might prefer that.

Re: TikTok told moderators to suppress posts by “ugly” people and the poor

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Geez, I thought this might be an overblown piece about algorithms unwittingly optimizing for the wrong things, but the headline is pretty accurate. Discussing how moderators choose content to recommend to people in the “For You” section (not a user — I assume this is something highlighted to users):

> Under this policy, TikTok moderators were explicitly told to suppress uploads from users with flaws both congenital and inevitable. “Abnormal body shape,” “ugly facial looks,” dwarfism, and “obvious beer belly,” “too many wrinkles,” “eye disorders,” and many other “low quality” traits are all enough to keep uploads out of the algorithmic fire hose.

A TikTok spokesperson seems to confirm they are real guidelines, but won’t confirm how they were used.

> TikTok spokesperson Josh Gartner told The Intercept that “most of” the livestream guidelines reviewed by The Intercept “are either no longer in use, or in some cases appear to never have been in place,” but would not provide specifics.

Re: TikTok told moderators to suppress posts by “ugly” people and the poor

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The Russians call this "face control"; the practice of maintaining a club full of only good looking people by the bouncers.

It's unpleasant, but a handy reminder that TikTok and other social networks don't work for you, but make you into a product.

Re: TikTok told moderators to suppress posts by “ugly” people and the poor

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Well, I guess those videos turn people off and they stay on the app less, and TikTok wants to make money. TikTok works with AI, but the same would happen on Facebook, where people click on "Like" manually. Cry me a river.

this is a very cogent point. algorithims act as a layer of abstraction and somehow gives people an escape for moral culpability. i wonder what facebooks algorithms would have done during US slavery, in nazi germany, during the apartheid, or any other (countless) horriffic human event?

no doubt we will hoist pitchforks at tiktok for being authoritarian chinese and neglect our own senseless populism.

Re: TikTok told moderators to suppress posts by “ugly” people and the poor

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post #3

Well, I guess those videos turn people off and they stay on the app less, and TikTok wants to make money. TikTok works with AI, but the same would happen on Facebook, where people click on "Like" manually. Cry me a river.

This is not about low quality content getting automatically filtered out by an algorithm because people don't like it. This is about TikTok using human moderators to prevent users from ever seeing content made by people they don't like.

Re: TikTok told moderators to suppress posts by “ugly” people and the poor

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post #3

Well, I guess those videos turn people off and they stay on the app less, and TikTok wants to make money. TikTok works with AI, but the same would happen on Facebook, where people click on "Like" manually. Cry me a river.

TikTok works with AI

No, it's manually done by humans.

Re: TikTok told moderators to suppress posts by “ugly” people and the poor

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This is what happens when you mix utilitarian morality with a desire to stop online bullying. You just stop letting the most likely targets of bullying be seen. This is much cheaper and easier than trying to get rid of everyone who has ever been mean online, because that's everyone.
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