In This Talk

#1

Post by rutenspitz » Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 9:48 AM UTC

In This Talk
billwadge.wordpress.com

Re: In This Talk

#2

Post by the_af » Tue, Mar 17, 2020, 2:27 PM UTC

This was a fun read, thanks for sharing.

"Computer science arrogance is measured in nano-Dijkstras" :)

I wasn't familiar with Bill Wadge. Apparently he designed Lucid: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_(programming_language)

Re: In This Talk

#3

Post by unwind » Tue, Mar 17, 2020, 2:55 PM UTC

This was also submitted yesterday [1], but didn't spark much of a discussion then.

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22591303

Re: In This Talk

#4

Post by the_af » Tue, Mar 17, 2020, 3:19 PM UTC

unwind wrote: post #3

This was also submitted yesterday [1], but didn't spark much of a discussion then. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22591303

Your link is the same as this one ;)

I think the problem is the title. "In This Talk" doesn't look interesting enough, and in fact I hesitated before clicking. Now I'm glad I did, it's an amusing bunch of anecdotes.

Re: In This Talk

#5

Post by Torwald » Tue, Mar 17, 2020, 3:22 PM UTC

the_af wrote: post #4

unwind wrote: post #3

This was also submitted yesterday [1], but didn't spark much of a discussion then. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22591303

Your link is the same as this one ;) I think the problem is the title. "In This Talk" doesn't look interesting enough, and in fact I hesitated before clicking. Now I'm glad I did, it's an amusing bunch of anecdotes.

I knew what the title meant the moment I saw it. Being good at giving talks is not completely unimportant for people who want to make money in a venue similar to that of Steve Jobs or so.

Re: In This Talk

#6

Post by the_af » Tue, Mar 17, 2020, 3:27 PM UTC

Torwald wrote: post #5

the_af wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your link is the same as this one ;) I think the problem is the title. "In This Talk" doesn't look interesting enough, and in fact I hesitated before clicking. Now I'm glad I did, it's an amusing bunch of anecdotes.

I knew what the title meant the moment I saw it. Being good at giving talks is not completely unimportant for people who want to make money in a venue similar to that of Steve Jobs or so.

Hehe. I actually avoided it because I thought it was "entrepreneurial" advice on giving talks, the sort of article I hate.

Instead, this was a bunch of amusing anecdotes from an oldschool CS guy, no practical advice for startups whatsoever. The kind of article I enjoy! ;)

Re: In This Talk

#7

Post by unwind » Tue, Mar 17, 2020, 3:32 PM UTC

the_af wrote: post #4

unwind wrote: post #3

This was also submitted yesterday [1], but didn't spark much of a discussion then. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22591303

Your link is the same as this one ;) I think the problem is the title. "In This Talk" doesn't look interesting enough, and in fact I hesitated before clicking. Now I'm glad I did, it's an amusing bunch of anecdotes.

Oops, thanks!

Still don't understand what happened, pretty sure I saw this listed as being posted less than an hour ago, but the one I saw when I searched was "1 day ago". Weird.

Re: In This Talk

#8

Post by syrrim » Tue, Mar 17, 2020, 3:55 PM UTC

unwind wrote: post #7

the_af wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your link is the same as this one ;) I think the problem is the title. "In This Talk" doesn't look interesting enough, and in fact I hesitated before clicking. Now I'm glad I did, it's an amusing bunch of anecdotes.

Oops, thanks! Still don't understand what happened, pretty sure I saw this listed as being posted less than an hour ago, but the one I saw when I searched was "1 day ago". Weird.

I believe the moderators will on occasion reset the timer for submissions they feel didn't get a good enough reception the first time around. Presumably this post is one such.

Re: In This Talk

#9

Post by dang » Tue, Mar 17, 2020, 4:07 PM UTC

syrrim wrote: post #8

unwind wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oops, thanks! Still don't understand what happened, pretty sure I saw this listed as being posted less than an hour ago, but the one I saw when I searched was "1 day ago". Weird.

I believe the moderators will on occasion reset the timer for submissions they feel didn't get a good enough reception the first time around. Presumably this post is one such.

Yup. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu... has lots of explanation if anyone wants it.

Re: In This Talk

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Post by dang » Tue, Mar 17, 2020, 4:10 PM UTC

the_af wrote: post #2

This was a fun read, thanks for sharing. "Computer science arrogance is measured in nano-Dijkstras" :) I wasn't familiar with Bill Wadge. Apparently he designed Lucid: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_(programming_language)

Yup, the pioneering dataflow language (along with Ed Ashcroft) much praised by Alan Kay.

Wadge has been blogging for a few years now, some about Lucid and more recently telling stories from his academic career.

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...