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Show HN: Encourage children to use the net more 4 learning with Pihole 5beta

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Re: Show HN: Encourage children to use the net more 4 learning with Pihole 5beta

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Post by billyzs »

jedieaston wrote: post #2

well, until they figure out how to set a local DNS server.

If they did that, then hopefully they learnt a thing or two about networking :)

But I do wonder if bandwidth limiting certain types of applications would be more effective, like reverse qos. There was a post a week or so ago on HN about adding delay to websites that sucks away productivity.

edit: I went and did that on my home router (a ubnt ER-X) and was pleasantly surprised by how granular its DPI and QoS categorizes applications (by protocols, by domain, IM, social network, P2P). It even allows you to make your own categories of apps that are (ab)used often, and rate limit access to them on a range of local IP. I'm hoping that this would be more subtle than an outright block, and the not so instant gratification lead to voluntary reduction of mindless consumption.

Re: Show HN: Encourage children to use the net more 4 learning with Pihole 5beta

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Post by travbrack »

billyzs wrote: post #3
jedieaston wrote: post #2

well, until they figure out how to set a local DNS server.

If they did that, then hopefully they learnt a thing or two about networking :) But I do wonder if bandwidth limiting certain types of applications would be more effective, like reverse qos. There was a post a week or so ago on HN about adding delay to websites that sucks away productivity. edit: I went and did that on my home router (a ubnt ER-X) and was pleasantly surprised by how granular its DPI and QoS categoriz…

Sorry for the pedantry but traffic shaping (slowing down a class of traffic on purpose) is a standard qos technique

Re: Show HN: Encourage children to use the net more 4 learning with Pihole 5beta

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Post by rgovostes »

billyzs wrote: post #3
jedieaston wrote: post #2

well, until they figure out how to set a local DNS server.

If they did that, then hopefully they learnt a thing or two about networking :) But I do wonder if bandwidth limiting certain types of applications would be more effective, like reverse qos. There was a post a week or so ago on HN about adding delay to websites that sucks away productivity. edit: I went and did that on my home router (a ubnt ER-X) and was pleasantly surprised by how granular its DPI and QoS categoriz…

I would definitely set that up for some time waster sites for myself, especially if I could borrow OP's idea to adjust the delay based on progress towards other goals. In my experience, Apple's Screen Time limit is just too easy to ignore, but on the other hand I'd be worried that mucking with DNS would disrupt me when I really need to get something done urgently.

Re: Show HN: Encourage children to use the net more 4 learning with Pihole 5beta

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Post by skissane »

The Windows 10 laptop my son uses keeps on changing its Wifi MAC address, which in turn makes the DHCP server give it a new IP. It’s annoying. (I tried some registry changes I found on some website but didn’t work.)

Doing this kind of thing requires the child to have a consistent IP. (I tried a static IP, it causes problems if he ever takes the laptop out of our house.)

(Thinking about a scheduled task which reports its IP to the home server, so at least I know what it is all the time...)

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