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Natural gas is crushing wind and solar power -Why isn't anyone talking about it?

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Re: Natural gas is crushing wind and solar power -Why isn't anyone talking about it?

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I thought that gas was primarily replacing coal as it is cheaper, is readily available, uses (mostly) the same infrastructure, has less CO2 emissions, has the same baseload capability while also being somewhat throttleable, and most importantly, is cheaper.

Re: Natural gas is crushing wind and solar power -Why isn't anyone talking about it?

#5
> (Quick: Can you think of anything else that now costs one-tenth of what it did 15 years ago?)

Unsubsidized wind power decreased more than that from over 20cents per KWh to about 1.5 cents now.

So tell me again how natural gas is crushing wind power?

Re: Natural gas is crushing wind and solar power -Why isn't anyone talking about it?

#6
Study after study has come out that says the EPA is way undercounting the amount of natural gas leaking during production. Given methane's much greater efficacy at facilitating the greenhouse effect this likely wipes out a good portion of the US's gains.

Further the reductions in carbon emissions will plateau, so while we'll make short term progress we'll stall in the midterm.

Re: Natural gas is crushing wind and solar power -Why isn't anyone talking about it?

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> (Quick: Can you think of anything else that now costs one-tenth of what it did 15 years ago?) Unsubsidized wind power decreased more than that from over 20cents per KWh to about 1.5 cents now. So tell me again how natural gas is crushing wind power?

From what I've seen wind equipment breaks easily and has to be repaired often so over the lifetime of a turbine the energy effectiveness is pretty low