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Ask HN: Why won't you quit a job you hate?

#1
For people who are bored at work, especially at big FAANG companies, why won't you make a switch?

Salary is a big factor for sure, but given an already good pay for technical talent why not to take a small pay cut and join a mission-driven startup, where you can be aligned in values and have an impact and growth?

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#4
Honestly? The job search + interview process is way too painful. I feel like I'm a good problem solver, I've made really good impact at the jobs I've been at but landing jobs is difficult for me. I tend to stick around til the job is more painful than interviewing.

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#5
FAANG is very much above average. Many startups are very much below average. Statistically, quitting a FAANG to join a startup is just a bad idea. The only reason to do so is that FAANG has a lower career cap. Even then, the cap on FAANG is much higher than, say, starting a restaurant.

At startups you generally deal with less smarter colleagues, spending months putting out fires that stem from hacky code designs, and dealing with many absent bosses who are just there for passive income.

Many startups try to look mission driven, but what drives most of them is just growth. The more growth oriented ones might be dishonest. If you think Facebook is unethical, watch what happens to a startup running on 3 months runway, trying to raise a new round. You also have to deal with pivots, often by bosses who literally don't know the meaning of the word and just bounce aimlessly between different things.

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#6
I'm one of those people who used to work in a "mission-driven." job. As part of burning out and walking the slow road to recovery, I started to feel a lot of "mission-driven" people are really selfish ladder-climbers who are fantastic at marketing themselves and their mission. I'm not even sure if they actually believe in what they are doing outside of inflating their own ego/prestige/whatever.

I'm not at FAANG and I don't earn anywhere near FAANG money. I know the above is really jaded and skeptical view of things. But I suspect more than a few people feel what I feel after a few years in the workforce.

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#7

Define "small paycut." Mid level engineers at FB and its ilk are pulling in 400k+ including RSUs and bonus. You'd be hard pressed to get even a very senior position at a small startup that pays even half that in real cash.

Let's say 20-30% discount on salary and potentially a bigger equity upside than a big CO. I haven't seen startup giving out cash bonuses.

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#8

Honestly? The job search + interview process is way too painful. I feel like I'm a good problem solver, I've made really good impact at the jobs I've been at but landing jobs is difficult for me. I tend to stick around til the job is more painful than interviewing.

Agree here. The standard practice of structured interviews is just no fun for me, although I see why it works for many companies.

Did you do any research on the companies beforehand or had a set of criteria to ensure that the job won't turn out painful next time?

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#9

"Bored" != "hate". If you're getting good money, and your management is relatively sane, and you like the people you work with, think twice before you leave. I've been around enough to know that you can easily wind up in a much worse situation.

You haven't lived until you've had a psychopath as a boss and for whatever reason they've decided they don't like you.

Do you feel lucky?

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#10

"Bored" != "hate". If you're getting good money, and your management is relatively sane, and you like the people you work with, think twice before you leave. I've been around enough to know that you can easily wind up in a much worse situation.

You haven't lived until you've had a psychopath as a boss and for whatever reason they've decided they don't like you. Do you feel lucky?

Or they could really like you and make you the first person they call with their insanity and high priority tasks.

Either way, you're in for a bad time.

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