We Decided to Leave AWS

#1

Post by simple-login » Thu, Feb 06, 2020, 6:47 AM UTC

Re: We Decided to Leave AWS

#2

Post by mcpherrinm » Thu, Feb 06, 2020, 8:36 AM UTC

You can bring your own IPs to AWS instead of reused Amazon IPs that don't have great reputation. Of course that assumes your reputation is better.

Re: We Decided to Leave AWS

#3

Post by fjni » Thu, Feb 06, 2020, 9:42 AM UTC

Managing your database yourself because of poor ip reputation experience seems like a bit of an overreaction to me.

Re: We Decided to Leave AWS

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Post by sathyabhat » Thu, Feb 06, 2020, 10:01 AM UTC

Wonder why they didn’t leverage Amazon SES? SES has API and SMTP options and have infinitely better reputation than EIPs.

https://aws.amazon.com/ses/

Re: We Decided to Leave AWS

#5

Post by joana035 » Thu, Feb 06, 2020, 3:16 PM UTC

That is amazing! I hope to see more posts like that.

Maybe more people will notice how simple things are outside of the aws realm.

Unfortunately more you use, harder to leave aws.

Re: We Decided to Leave AWS

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Post by crmrc114 » Thu, Feb 06, 2020, 3:26 PM UTC

sathyabhat wrote: post #4

Wonder why they didn’t leverage Amazon SES? SES has API and SMTP options and have infinitely better reputation than EIPs. https://aws.amazon.com/ses/

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. This sounds like someone who did not know how to use AWS and trying to treat an EC2 virt like an email server circa 1998. Can someone explain why anyone would want to do a setup like described in the article?

Re: We Decided to Leave AWS

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Post by simple-login » Mon, Feb 17, 2020, 2:02 PM UTC

crmrc114 wrote: post #6

sathyabhat wrote: post #4

Wonder why they didn’t leverage Amazon SES? SES has API and SMTP options and have infinitely better reputation than EIPs. https://aws.amazon.com/ses/

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. This sounds like someone who did not know how to use AWS and trying to treat an EC2 virt like an email server circa 1998. Can someone explain why anyone would want to do a setup like described in the article?

ses pricing is not sustainable for our pricing model that offers unlimited forwards/replies.

We should have pointed this out in the article. Btw we know pretty well aws.

Re: We Decided to Leave AWS

#8

Post by simple-login » Mon, Feb 17, 2020, 2:05 PM UTC

fjni wrote: post #3

Managing your database yourself because of poor ip reputation experience seems like a bit of an overreaction to me.

Another feature of SimpleLogin is self-hosting and we don’t want to be dependent on a specific cloud.

The database does not have high i/o need and we don’t store much data so a self managing a database is doable.

Re: We Decided to Leave AWS

#9

Post by simple-login » Mon, Feb 17, 2020, 2:07 PM UTC

mcpherrinm wrote: post #2

You can bring your own IPs to AWS instead of reused Amazon IPs that don't have great reputation. Of course that assumes your reputation is better.

We have studied that option but the price exceeds an early, bootstrapped startup budget unfortunately.

Re: We Decided to Leave AWS

#10

Post by simple-login » Mon, Feb 17, 2020, 2:10 PM UTC

joana035 wrote: post #5

That is amazing! I hope to see more posts like that. Maybe more people will notice how simple things are outside of the aws realm. Unfortunately more you use, harder to leave aws.

Absolutely! We also feared that it’s going to be hard to scale without all the aws features like rds, load balancer, s3, etc but we discovered better & easier to use tools for each need since we left Aws.