Acetaminophen and the War on Drugs (2009)
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Acetaminophen and the War on Drugs (2009)
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Re: Acetaminophen and the War on Drugs (2009)
#2It's worth pointing out that the FDA has since voted to reduce the levels of acetaminophen in vicodin.
Re: Acetaminophen and the War on Drugs (2009)
#3The sillier part of adding acetaminophen to hydrocodone and other opiates is that it's easy to remove the acetaminophen via cold water extraction. Thus, anyone looking to seriously abuse Vicodin can avoid the damage with just a bit of work.
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#5So total aside, inspired by the mention of denatured alcohol. How come you can buy bitters, which are up to 50% alcohol (i.e. 100 proof), without having to be of legal age?
Re: Acetaminophen and the War on Drugs (2009)
#6The sillier part of adding acetaminophen to hydrocodone and other opiates is that it's easy to remove the acetaminophen via cold water extraction. Thus, anyone looking to seriously abuse Vicodin can avoid the damage with just a bit of work.
Exactly. Anyone who wants to abuse opiates can do a simple cold water extraction to almost completely remove the acetaminophen in less than five minutes, or else they can potentiate them using the techniques here so they only need a tiny dosage:
http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=305596
What this means is that the vast majority of those dying are those using these drugs for legitimate medical problems. And it's not a small number of people either; 7,500 people in the US die each year from NSAIDs, and countless more survive but are permanently crippled.
The new government guidelines do absolutely nothing to fix the problem, they're just propaganda to support what is essentially a government campaign to poison the elderly and chronic pain patients.
Re: Acetaminophen and the War on Drugs (2009)
#7A bit like shooting someone who is attempting suicide. Prohibition v. 2 has proven to be just as disastrous as v. 1, when will there finally be enough political momentum behind ending it?
Re: Acetaminophen and the War on Drugs (2009)
#8So total aside, inspired by the mention of denatured alcohol. How come you can buy bitters, which are up to 50% alcohol (i.e. 100 proof), without having to be of legal age?
I tried to buy bitters at 4 am the other day and they wouldn't let me due to the alcohol content. Pretty stupid, since getting intoxicated from bitters would be about as much fun as drinking cooking wine.
Re: Acetaminophen and the War on Drugs (2009)
#9One alternative he doesn't mention is Vicoprofen, which contains ibuprofen rather than acetaminophen.
Re: Acetaminophen and the War on Drugs (2009)
#10It's worth pointing out that the FDA has since voted to reduce the levels of acetaminophen in vicodin. http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=12607415
Maybe I'm just in a strange mood, but that is one of the most bizzare statements (with context) that I've ever heard. It's like something directly out of George Orwell.
"Party officials recently voted to approve a measure that would decrease the amount of poison included in medicine."
ahem
"New techniques developed by party scientists have caused medicinal purities to reach an all time high!"