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Re: Crysis (EA game) leak

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Maybe they should be trying to find the internal source instead of blaming everything on "piracy".

Maybe they should figure out a business model that is based less on controlling distribution archaically.

Re: Crysis (EA game) leak

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Maybe they should be trying to find the internal source instead of blaming everything on "piracy".

They're probably trying a lot of things... that message there, blaming piracy, it's not meant for you.

It's also not meant for people who play console games but don't use the internet much and don't know how to use a torrent site.

It's meant for the marginal person who could go either way - who might grudgingly torrent a movie or music album that can't be bought in his home country, but feels guilty about it and wants to support content creators.

There's people who are going to buy, no matter what - this message doesn't affect them. There's people who aren't going to buy, no matter what - this message doesn't affect them. There's also a marginal group of people who might buy or might not - they're trying to appeal to them.

Or who knows, maybe they really are just blaming piracy while letting the ship sink. I'd buy that explanation too.

Re: Crysis (EA game) leak

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That's a weirdly worded paragraph. The first three sentences are fine, then the fourth sentence is marketing copy awkwardly squeezed in ("Nanosuit lets you be the weapon as you defend NYC from an alien invasion"), then closes with a generic statement about piracy.

Will be interesting to see what effects this has, though. Apart from the simple fact of early availability to pirates, these kinds of leaks can change the early review climate, since now reviews can come from all sorts of sources, not just the journalists given preview copies. What effect that has might depend on how good the game is (and how close to done the leaked version is).

A worse outcome than just the leaked version being available would be if it led to a flurry of negative reviews of the pre-release version, the way leaks of bad films have a much more negative effect on opening-weekend sales than leaks of good films do--- the didn't-see-it-because-everyone-said-it-sucked effect can be larger than the didn't-see-it-because-I-already-pirated-it effect.

The best outcome for EA would probably be a flood of reviews of the form: "wow this is an amazing game but a few things are broken in the leaked version, which I assume will be fixed by release".

Re: Crysis (EA game) leak

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Here's a rewrite that I think is much more pleasant, and would build good will, and probably increase sales:

Crytek has been alerted that an early incomplete, unfinished build of Crysis 2 has appeared on Torrent sites. Crytek and EA are a bit shocked, but surprisingly ok with the news. Saves us the trouble of writing a demo! So check out the pirated, unofficial demo, and be sure to buy the full game when it comes out on March 22nd.

And try not to spoil yourself too much on the leak, the full game is much better already!

Re: Crysis (EA game) leak

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That's a weirdly worded paragraph. The first three sentences are fine, then the fourth sentence is marketing copy awkwardly squeezed in ("Nanosuit lets you be the weapon as you defend NYC from an alien invasion"), then closes with a generic statement about piracy. Will be interesting to see what effects this has, though. Apart from the simple fact of early availability to pirates, these kinds of leaks can change the…

A similar thing happened many years ago when an early version of Half-Life 2 got leaked. Reaction was tepid at best, Valve went back and basically re-made the entire game (delaying an already delayed game for substantially longer), but ultimately resulting in an award-winning game with an amazing (for the time) new engine. The pirating of the leak was of course highly illegal, but you could easily argue that Valve wouldn't be where they are now without it. (Half-Life 2 also contributed to the success of the Steam download service, another first for the company.)

Re: Crysis (EA game) leak

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That's a weirdly worded paragraph. The first three sentences are fine, then the fourth sentence is marketing copy awkwardly squeezed in ("Nanosuit lets you be the weapon as you defend NYC from an alien invasion"), then closes with a generic statement about piracy. Will be interesting to see what effects this has, though. Apart from the simple fact of early availability to pirates, these kinds of leaks can change the…

A similar thing happened many years ago when an early version of Half-Life 2 got leaked. Reaction was tepid at best, Valve went back and basically re-made the entire game (delaying an already delayed game for substantially longer), but ultimately resulting in an award-winning game with an amazing (for the time) new engine. The pirating of the leak was of course highly illegal, but you could easily argue that Valve wo…

My recollection of this is...The person who leaked HL2 actually hacked into Valve's network and could not find anything that could be considered a game, just a bunch of tech demos and assets (I downloaded and played the E3 demo). He essentially announced that Valve was lying to the public about their progress on HL2 right before the originally scheduled release date and delay. I believe Steam was announced before the leak, and released well before HL2 release.

Re: Crysis (EA game) leak

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Maybe they should be trying to find the internal source instead of blaming everything on "piracy".

They're probably trying a lot of things... that message there, blaming piracy, it's not meant for you. It's also not meant for people who play console games but don't use the internet much and don't know how to use a torrent site. It's meant for the marginal person who could go either way - who might grudgingly torrent a movie or music album that can't be bought in his home country, but feels guilty about it and want…

> There's people who are going to buy, no matter what

Most of those people do it out of convenience. They want to play on their console, in the living room with the big screen, and they don't want to fuck around with torrenting ISOs and hacking their machine so it can play copied games. Next to convenience, morality takes a distant second place; they probably pirate music and movies without hesitation. But fans of Crysis 2 have long been awaiting its release, and being able to play it months before its street date, even if it means playing on PC and hitting the torrents, might tip the convenience equation.

That is why this is so dangerous for Crytek.

Re: Crysis (EA game) leak

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A similar thing happened many years ago when an early version of Half-Life 2 got leaked. Reaction was tepid at best, Valve went back and basically re-made the entire game (delaying an already delayed game for substantially longer), but ultimately resulting in an award-winning game with an amazing (for the time) new engine. The pirating of the leak was of course highly illegal, but you could easily argue that Valve wo…

My recollection of this is...The person who leaked HL2 actually hacked into Valve's network and could not find anything that could be considered a game, just a bunch of tech demos and assets (I downloaded and played the E3 demo). He essentially announced that Valve was lying to the public about their progress on HL2 right before the originally scheduled release date and delay. I believe Steam was announced before the…

It was released well before the HL2 release, because I remember having HL2 pre-downloaded for day of release.
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