AMD’s 7nm Ryzen 4000 CPUs are here to take on Intel’s 10nm Ice Lake laptop chips
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Re: AMD’s 7nm Ryzen 4000 CPUs are here to take on Intel’s 10nm Ice Lake laptop chips
#2the thing is those 4000 cpus are really 3000 ones. intels laptops are always 1 gen ahead. amds laptop is always one gen behind. its kinda annoying. granted zen 2 (or 3000) was a good architecture so it should compete nicely but I would expect intel to actually be more efficient still because its newer.
Re: AMD’s 7nm Ryzen 4000 CPUs are here to take on Intel’s 10nm Ice Lake laptop chips
#3the thing is those 4000 cpus are really 3000 ones. intels laptops are always 1 gen ahead. amds laptop is always one gen behind. its kinda annoying. granted zen 2 (or 3000) was a good architecture so it should compete nicely but I would expect intel to actually be more efficient still because its newer.
Yes, that naming scheme annoys me as well.
Re: AMD’s 7nm Ryzen 4000 CPUs are here to take on Intel’s 10nm Ice Lake laptop chips
#4the thing is those 4000 cpus are really 3000 ones. intels laptops are always 1 gen ahead. amds laptop is always one gen behind. its kinda annoying. granted zen 2 (or 3000) was a good architecture so it should compete nicely but I would expect intel to actually be more efficient still because its newer.
The core architecture is totally irrelevant. They took the previous generation core, improved the process, made various tweaks, ran it at a different clock speed and within a different thermal and TDP envelope, and everything else that entails. Laptops have different requirements that need to be considered. Taking a mature part they understand well gives them room and understanding to make necessary tweaks.
The reality is those changes take time, it's not like they took a Ryzen 3700X, dropped it onto a smaller package and called it a day. If that were the case I'd imagine they'd have released it alongside...
Re: AMD’s 7nm Ryzen 4000 CPUs are here to take on Intel’s 10nm Ice Lake laptop chips
#5Already tweeted the following comment...
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@TheVerge
@cgartenberg I think you are muddling some things... There are Ryzen processors in the 2000, 3000, and 4000 series that use the tech from the prior generation.
The 3200g for example, is a Zen+ (12nm) processor in the 3000 series...
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There are also Zen2 processors in the 3000 series. The processors you are referring to are Zen2 (7nm) processors that are in the 4000 series, that will land ahead of Zen3 (7nm+) later in the year... the article doesn't clearly explain this.
Re: AMD’s 7nm Ryzen 4000 CPUs are here to take on Intel’s 10nm Ice Lake laptop chips
#6Wow, they released a processor with 64 cores?! that's crazy. AMD is crushing it!
Re: AMD’s 7nm Ryzen 4000 CPUs are here to take on Intel’s 10nm Ice Lake laptop chips
#7the thing is those 4000 cpus are really 3000 ones. intels laptops are always 1 gen ahead. amds laptop is always one gen behind. its kinda annoying. granted zen 2 (or 3000) was a good architecture so it should compete nicely but I would expect intel to actually be more efficient still because its newer.
The terms and tech do get muddied... that said, these are 3-5 year processes to get a new line released.
The 4000 series g and u cpu's should do quite well against current Intel options though.
Re: AMD’s 7nm Ryzen 4000 CPUs are here to take on Intel’s 10nm Ice Lake laptop chips
#8the thing is those 4000 cpus are really 3000 ones. intels laptops are always 1 gen ahead. amds laptop is always one gen behind. its kinda annoying. granted zen 2 (or 3000) was a good architecture so it should compete nicely but I would expect intel to actually be more efficient still because its newer.
as i see, amd will still be more efficient in practice.
Re: AMD’s 7nm Ryzen 4000 CPUs are here to take on Intel’s 10nm Ice Lake laptop chips
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Re: AMD’s 7nm Ryzen 4000 CPUs are here to take on Intel’s 10nm Ice Lake laptop chips
#10With laptops, OEM deals matter a lot more than with desktop CPU's. Here's to hoping that OEMs don't gimp their Ryzen models with worse screens, smaller batteries and slower, single-channel Ram as they are wont to do.
I'm excite for my next laptop to have a Ryzen, depending on benchmarks of course.