Germany Calls for European Firewall Against U.S. Sanctions

When tariffs are used as a mechanism to create unfair advantages for US entities over foreign states’ instead of even pretending it’s under the veil of US freedom policy not even your old pals will put up with it.

Re: Germany Calls for European Firewall Against U.S. Sanctions

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Post by etaioinshrdlu » Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 2:01 PM UTC

The politics on this issue seem quite confusing. It might point to a lot of internal infighting within the politics of both Europe and the US.

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Post by H8crilA » Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 2:02 PM UTC

It is beyond me for the German state to call for "EU unity" because of a project that is essentially a huge "fuck you" to Eastern Europe. If anything the EU should back the US sanctions to protect unity, as weird as it sounds.

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Post by jplayer01 » Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 2:06 PM UTC

This is all about German politicians who've been bought out by Russian interests trying to protect their pet project(s). Speaking as a German, the fact that Germany would rather deal with and be reliant on a country like Russia is, frankly, insane and incredibly shameful. It's as if Ukraine didn't happen, nor Russian interference of elections across the Western world. For all the bad that the US does, at least they don't invade and annex European countries, and try to undermine European politics.

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Post by praptak » Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 2:08 PM UTC

This particular case is pretty bad for getting EU to unite.

Nordstream is contentious within EU too - it's basically a way for Russia to threaten Poland with the gas cutoff without endangering their business with Germany.

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Post by koksik202 » Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 2:10 PM UTC

Since US is starting to be a supplier of gas to Central European counties such as Poland via the gas carrying vessels and some countries trying to gain energy independence from Russia it becomes an interest of US not to lose the newly acquired buyers of their gas. Then it is problematic for countries like Germany that they can't boost the import because of US interference

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Post by pointillistic » Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 2:12 PM UTC

jplayer01 wrote: post #7

This is all about German politicians who've been bought out by Russian interests trying to protect their pet project(s). Speaking as a German, the fact that Germany would rather deal with and be reliant on a country like Russia is, frankly, insane and incredibly shameful. It's as if Ukraine didn't happen, nor Russian interference of elections across the Western world. For all the bad that the US does, at least they d…

One would think that with it's communist history Germany would be on the side of the Western Values. In addition Globalism hollowed out the western know-how,via cut and paste to China. Germany stands to lose from it the most with precision manufacturing being transferred to China. Markel is picking the wrong friends.