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Is the Netherlands becoming a narco-state?

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Re: Is the Netherlands becoming a narco-state?

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Huh, maybe mass immigration of culturally distinct impoverished and unskilled young men isn't a good policy after all...

If the unskilled young men were left in their home country, they would still be unskilled for the rest of their lives. But, by bringing them in we are not only teaching them how to be more skilled, but also teaching our society how to more efficiently take unskilled workers and bring them up to a highly skilled workers who can live a middle class life style like you or me. This is because the more you focus on something the better you are at it, even at a societal level. For example, a town living outside a desert is much more effective at preserving rainwater than one besides a jungle.

So, after western society has learned how to take care of immigrants better, not only is it helping them, but helping itself as well.

Re: Is the Netherlands becoming a narco-state?

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Huh, maybe mass immigration of culturally distinct impoverished and unskilled young men isn't a good policy after all...

The vast majority of narco crime in NL is done by ethnic Dutch people. Sure, there's other ethnicities too. Like most crime, generally it's a pretty representative mix of the poorer classes.

Immigration causes all kinds of things, good and bad, but increased drug crime isn't really on the list so far.

Source: I live in the south of NL (narco hotspot) and I read the local newspaper. Majority of drug criminals caught have Dutch names. I'm sure there's better stats somewhere but can't be arsed.

Re: Is the Netherlands becoming a narco-state?

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post #3

Huh, maybe mass immigration of culturally distinct impoverished and unskilled young men isn't a good policy after all...

If the unskilled young men were left in their home country, they would still be unskilled for the rest of their lives. But, by bringing them in we are not only teaching them how to be more skilled, but also teaching our society how to more efficiently take unskilled workers and bring them up to a highly skilled workers who can live a middle class life style like you or me. This is because the more you focus on someth…

Your logic is idiotic.

Re: Is the Netherlands becoming a narco-state?

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Huh, maybe mass immigration of culturally distinct impoverished and unskilled young men isn't a good policy after all...

The Dutch have been manufacturing and trafficking drugs for decades, MDMA, LSD, 2CB, speed, cocaine. A lot of the stuff you see online in Dark Net markets comes from Holland.

Re: Is the Netherlands becoming a narco-state?

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post #3

Huh, maybe mass immigration of culturally distinct impoverished and unskilled young men isn't a good policy after all...

If the unskilled young men were left in their home country, they would still be unskilled for the rest of their lives. But, by bringing them in we are not only teaching them how to be more skilled, but also teaching our society how to more efficiently take unskilled workers and bring them up to a highly skilled workers who can live a middle class life style like you or me. This is because the more you focus on someth…

It is helping itself with a problem it created in the first place.

Re: Is the Netherlands becoming a narco-state?

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post #3

Huh, maybe mass immigration of culturally distinct impoverished and unskilled young men isn't a good policy after all...

If the unskilled young men were left in their home country, they would still be unskilled for the rest of their lives. But, by bringing them in we are not only teaching them how to be more skilled, but also teaching our society how to more efficiently take unskilled workers and bring them up to a highly skilled workers who can live a middle class life style like you or me. This is because the more you focus on someth…

One could also say that having an abundance of a cheap, low quality resource, steers the economy into exploiting it instead of learning to use better alternatives.

In the case of low-skilled immigrant workers, this means not being forced to improve processes and technologies, because you can rely on a lot of cheap, unskilled manual labour.

Same logic, and I think a little bit less far-fetched than yours.

Re: Is the Netherlands becoming a narco-state?

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I hope XTC gets legalized in the Netherlands as soon as possible. One of the ruling parties (D66) is currently investigating a proposal to do so.

We are a very large producer (the largest?) and the stuff is not harmful enough to warrant the prohibition and all of the crime it entails.

Re: Is the Netherlands becoming a narco-state?

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post #9

I hope XTC gets legalized in the Netherlands as soon as possible. One of the ruling parties (D66) is currently investigating a proposal to do so. We are a very large producer (the largest?) and the stuff is not harmful enough to warrant the prohibition and all of the crime it entails.

MDMA can be incredibly harmful, especially when used frequently.
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