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Google's Monopoly-Based Foreign Policy

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Re: Google's Monopoly-Based Foreign Policy

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> Google said it was willing to ‘work with’ Turkey, but as a partner and not as a corporation working within a sovereign nation. It simply said it doesn’t like Turkey’s law, and so it will stop providing Android phones for an entire country. In other words, Google has a private sanctions regime against smaller countries.

The fact that Google even has the leverage to blackout an entire country like this--and that it's legally allowed to do so--is the best reason I've seen so far to break up Big Tech. They're playing with fire and undermining the U.S. diplomatic community by mixing public and private interests in a way that supersedes national policy. Both Android and Chrome need to be spun out--at this point they are basically public utilities.

Re: Google's Monopoly-Based Foreign Policy

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I'm generally pro competition but I feel like there's probably more to this story (just remembering how eBay also left Turkey). Aren't there some issues with how the data is supposed to be stored in Turkey (a place where many people including journalists are jailed and does not rank highly as a Democratic country) that would also make Google more likely to just up and leave or outright negotiate with the government over the laws rather than directly give in? Of course, I get the argument for how Google is too powerful with their system, I don't disagree, but I'm skeptical in general of trying to do fair business with Russia and Turkey given their track records

Re: Google's Monopoly-Based Foreign Policy

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post #3

> Google said it was willing to ‘work with’ Turkey, but as a partner and not as a corporation working within a sovereign nation. It simply said it doesn’t like Turkey’s law, and so it will stop providing Android phones for an entire country. In other words, Google has a private sanctions regime against smaller countries. The fact that Google even has the leverage to blackout an entire country like this--and that it's…

> -and that it's legally allowed to do so--is the best reason I've seen so far to break up Big Tech.

Of course it is legal.. Nobody can tell a company who they HAVE to sell their product to.. But you want to break it up and what then exactly.. ?

> Both Android and Chrome need to be spun out--at this point they are basically public utilities

No, they're not.. And they're not a fundamental right either.

Re: Google's Monopoly-Based Foreign Policy

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Google should be broken up like the Bell system was in the 80s.

Why ?

Maybe some proper regulation written by people who know what they're talking about would be a better start no ?

The nuclear option of : 'Oh break them up, they're out of control' is such a fallacy.

Maybe if lawmakers were clued in on what large companies like Facebook, Google actually did, they might just set better rules.

Re: Google's Monopoly-Based Foreign Policy

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> Google said it was willing to ‘work with’ Turkey, but as a partner and not as a corporation working within a sovereign nation. It simply said it doesn’t like Turkey’s law, and so it will stop providing Android phones for an entire country. In other words, Google has a private sanctions regime against smaller countries. The fact that Google even has the leverage to blackout an entire country like this--and that it's…

> -and that it's legally allowed to do so--is the best reason I've seen so far to break up Big Tech. Of course it is legal.. Nobody can tell a company who they HAVE to sell their product to.. But you want to break it up and what then exactly.. ? > Both Android and Chrome need to be spun out--at this point they are basically public utilities No, they're not.. And they're not a fundamental right either.

Chromium is already open source.

Re: Google's Monopoly-Based Foreign Policy

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Yea there's alot of emotional bickering that comes up when a company says "we won't do business with X".

>In other words, Google has a private sanctions regime against smaller countries.

With this stupid statement, my company must have a private sanctions regime agaisnt half the world

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