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Re: Flutter: UI platform designed for ambient computing

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Scanned the whole article, still don't know what "ambient computing" is. I suppose they mean writing apps that run on the little microphones they want us to put all over our houses. Seems like I remember there being a platform that was built in the '90s to run on any device. What was it called..

Re: Flutter: UI platform designed for ambient computing

#4

Bizarre reading the vision for this "ambient computing" platform given that the web platform has already been doing that for years and you could imagine the Chrome team using nearly identical terms to describe what their mission is.

If only someone at Google could figure out how to put a web browser on a Nest Hub!

Re: Flutter: UI platform designed for ambient computing

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Not sure if it is counter-intuitive, but I was deciding between React Native and Flutter for a project and this announcement nudged me to decide on React Native.

I am pretty sure I just want my app to run on Android, iOS, and web. If Flutter's vision is making it possible to also design to TVs, smartwatches, thermostats, doorbells, fridges, etc it means that there will be trade-offs, added complexity, overhead, design choices to support that "ambient computing" vision.

I don't want any of that, and it is good to know that in advance. RN it is.

Re: Flutter: UI platform designed for ambient computing

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post #5

Not sure if it is counter-intuitive, but I was deciding between React Native and Flutter for a project and this announcement nudged me to decide on React Native. I am pretty sure I just want my app to run on Android, iOS, and web. If Flutter's vision is making it possible to also design to TVs, smartwatches, thermostats, doorbells, fridges, etc it means that there will be trade-offs, added complexity, overhead, desig…

I’m a professional plugin developer. I make plugins for Cordova, React Native and Flutter. Flutter is my favorite.

You should do a hello world at least.

Re: Flutter: UI platform designed for ambient computing

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31 years late, Google attempts to re-brand "Ubiquitous Computing" (aka "Calm Technology") as "Ambient Computing". At least it sounds more mellow, less intrusive, unwelcome, penetrative, and phallic than the other attempt at rebranding UbiComp as "Pervasive Computing" in order to sell it to the military.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubiquitous_computing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calm_technology

https://www.researchgate.net/post/What_is_differents_between...

https://internetofthingsagenda.techtarget.com/definition/per...

>The term pervasive computing followed in the late 1990s, largely popularized by the creation of IBM's pervasive computing division. Though synonymous today, Professor Friedemann Mattern of the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich noted in a 2004 paper that:

>Weiser saw the term 'ubiquitous computing' in a more academic and idealistic sense as an unobtrusive, human-centric technology vision that will not be realized for many years, yet [the] industry has coined the term 'pervasive computing' with a slightly different slant. Though this also relates to pervasive and omnipresent information processing, its primary goal is to use this information processing in the near future in the fields of electronic commerce and web-based business processes. In this pragmatic variation -- where wireless communication plays an important role alongside various mobile devices such as smartphones and PDAs -- ubiquitous computing is already gaining a foothold in practice.

You say pervasive, I say perversive. Let's call the whole thing off.

Re: Flutter: UI platform designed for ambient computing

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post #5

Not sure if it is counter-intuitive, but I was deciding between React Native and Flutter for a project and this announcement nudged me to decide on React Native. I am pretty sure I just want my app to run on Android, iOS, and web. If Flutter's vision is making it possible to also design to TVs, smartwatches, thermostats, doorbells, fridges, etc it means that there will be trade-offs, added complexity, overhead, desig…

I’m a professional plugin developer. I make plugins for Cordova, React Native and Flutter. Flutter is my favorite. You should do a hello world at least.

Where do you sell Flutter plugins? How do you come up with ideas?

Re: Flutter: UI platform designed for ambient computing

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post #5

Not sure if it is counter-intuitive, but I was deciding between React Native and Flutter for a project and this announcement nudged me to decide on React Native. I am pretty sure I just want my app to run on Android, iOS, and web. If Flutter's vision is making it possible to also design to TVs, smartwatches, thermostats, doorbells, fridges, etc it means that there will be trade-offs, added complexity, overhead, desig…

This reads like someone who had already made their mind, and looked for anything to support their prior bias...

For starters, who said RN is not having work done to run on "TVs, smartwatches, thermostats" and so on? Here's a post about work done for smart TVs from the official RN blog:

https://facebook.github.io/react-native/docs/building-for-ap...

Second, who said those concerns aren't orthogonal? Given a good modular design work done for the framework to work on a TV should not impact work done for the framework to play well on the Web or mobile.

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