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What is Symplectic Geometry? (2016) [pdf]

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Re: What is Symplectic Geometry? (2016) [pdf]

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For those into physics, I wholeheartedly recommend Marsden and Ratiu's book, "Introduction to Mechanics and Symmetry", which deals mainly with the different formulations of physics applied to symplectic and associated geometries.

Re: What is Symplectic Geometry? (2016) [pdf]

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This really doesn't make it clear what symplectic geometry... is, or why I should care about it. I have eventually figured out an answer that was satisfactory to me, after much frustration: it is math on a manifold that has a concept of paired-off coordinates, like (x,v) in mechanics. Typically this is interesting because it is an alternate characterization of the mathematics of a space where the relevant quantities are a variable and its derivative.

(In classic mechanics, particularly, there is an unusual symmetry to position and velocity, such that the laws of mechanics look roughly a rotation x -> v, v -> -x, which is why this works so well.)

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This really doesn't make it clear what symplectic geometry... is, or why I should care about it. I have eventually figured out an answer that was satisfactory to me, after much frustration: it is math on a manifold that has a concept of paired-off coordinates, like (x,v) in mechanics. Typically this is interesting because it is an alternate characterization of the mathematics of a space where the relevant quantities…

Correct, and it also appears in Electromagnetism and Quantum Physics (in several ways), and in Lie theory that is useful for rotations and differential applications.

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This really doesn't make it clear what symplectic geometry... is, or why I should care about it. I have eventually figured out an answer that was satisfactory to me, after much frustration: it is math on a manifold that has a concept of paired-off coordinates, like (x,v) in mechanics. Typically this is interesting because it is an alternate characterization of the mathematics of a space where the relevant quantities…

> (In classic mechanics, particularly, there is an unusual symmetry to position and velocity, such that the laws of mechanics look roughly a rotation x -> v, v -> -x, which is why this works so well.)

In fact, every symplectic manifold locally looks like this (Darboux's theorem).

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This really doesn't make it clear what symplectic geometry... is, or why I should care about it. I have eventually figured out an answer that was satisfactory to me, after much frustration: it is math on a manifold that has a concept of paired-off coordinates, like (x,v) in mechanics. Typically this is interesting because it is an alternate characterization of the mathematics of a space where the relevant quantities…

> (In classic mechanics, particularly, there is an unusual symmetry to position and velocity, such that the laws of mechanics look roughly a rotation x -> v, v -> -x, which is why this works so well.) In fact, every symplectic manifold locally looks like this (Darboux's theorem).

Yeah, but I'm interested in understanding things the other direction: if there is not some major class of problems that are best described by symplectic manifolds, then why care about Darboux's theorem at all? If there are, why isn't that front-and-center? This article conspicuously avoids motivating symplectic geometry _at all_, which is so frustrating. It mentions connections to subjects, but it doesn't mention why symplectic geometry is _necessary_, rather than sufficient, for these connections.

Re: What is Symplectic Geometry? (2016) [pdf]

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This really doesn't make it clear what symplectic geometry... is, or why I should care about it. I have eventually figured out an answer that was satisfactory to me, after much frustration: it is math on a manifold that has a concept of paired-off coordinates, like (x,v) in mechanics. Typically this is interesting because it is an alternate characterization of the mathematics of a space where the relevant quantities…

What does "paired-off coordinates, like (x,v) in mechanics" mean? What is x and v here?

Thanks!

Re: What is Symplectic Geometry? (2016) [pdf]

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This really doesn't make it clear what symplectic geometry... is, or why I should care about it. I have eventually figured out an answer that was satisfactory to me, after much frustration: it is math on a manifold that has a concept of paired-off coordinates, like (x,v) in mechanics. Typically this is interesting because it is an alternate characterization of the mathematics of a space where the relevant quantities…

Symplectic geometry is a collection of facts having to do with symplectic manifolds. Just like euclidean geometry is a collection of facts having to do euclidean manifolds.

That's the way in which terms like "____ geometry" are defined and understood.

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