Julian Assange and visitors were spied on by security firm for US intelligence
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Re: Julian Assange and visitors were spied on by security firm for US intelligence
#2This is just sick. Why do we even have international laws if they are so blatantly violated? And of course no one will be held accountable.
Re: Julian Assange and visitors were spied on by security firm for US intelligence
#3This is just sick. Why do we even have international laws if they are so blatantly violated? And of course no one will be held accountable.
Which international laws would you be referring to in this case?
Re: Julian Assange and visitors were spied on by security firm for US intelligence
#4This is just sick. Why do we even have international laws if they are so blatantly violated? And of course no one will be held accountable.
It is because congress and law makers don't make the US federal agencies accountable for their actions. A law does not exist if there is no punishment for violation of said law.
Re: Julian Assange and visitors were spied on by security firm for US intelligence
#5This is just sick. Why do we even have international laws if they are so blatantly violated? And of course no one will be held accountable.
It is because congress and law makers don't make the US federal agencies accountable for their actions. A law does not exist if there is no punishment for violation of said law.
It's not actually illegal for the CIA to spy on foreign embassies.
The US was caught bugging the UN, and we tapped Angela Merkel's phone. The intelligence agencies are, more or less, doing exactly what they were set up to do.
And the other guys are bugging us in return (see: mysterious cell-site simulators popping up in DC, etc).
The CIA runs a drone warfare program, bugging one embassy is not going to turn their stomachs.
Re: Julian Assange and visitors were spied on by security firm for US intelligence
#6Of course they were. Julian Assange's explicit mission was to expose US (and other) intelligence secrets. If they weren't spying on him and his visitors they'd be derelict in their most basic of duties.
I don't even know why this is a story. I don't mind Assange, and I think the counterpoint he created to state power was good, but the idea that the state shouldn't spy on him in turn is ludicrous.
Re: Julian Assange and visitors were spied on by security firm for US intelligence
#7This is just sick. Why do we even have international laws if they are so blatantly violated? And of course no one will be held accountable.
What exactly do you think intelligence services do?
They do this, that's their job.
Re: Julian Assange and visitors were spied on by security firm for US intelligence
#8I don't get what's shocking about this.
If you have a consistent history of publishing a foreign government's state secrets that damage its national security, they're gonna spy on you.
And before the nitpickers jump in on me, I believe whether or not Assange actually damaged US national security by publishing leaks is a decision best left to people who actually work in national security rather than armchair bystanders like myself.
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#9Does anyone actually find this "shocking"? It's pretty much what I expected.
Re: Julian Assange and visitors were spied on by security firm for US intelligence
#10This is just sick. Why do we even have international laws if they are so blatantly violated? And of course no one will be held accountable.
Which international laws would you be referring to in this case?
The vienna diplomatic convention according to which the UK should protect the embassy from intrusion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vienna_Convention_on_Diplomati...