Cloud Run, a Managed Knative Service, Is GA
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Cloud Run, a Managed Knative Service, Is GA
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#2If I understand correctly, I now must subscribe to Anthos ($$$) in order to run my Cloud Run containers in my own GKE cluster.
Without Anthos, I can only use the fully-managed edition of Cloud Run. Or, presumably, I can set up self-managed Knative in my non-Anthos GKE cluster...
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#3I hope at some point the fully managed Cloud Run can connect to the VPC and also support web sockets.
Re: Cloud Run, a Managed Knative Service, Is GA
#4I hope at some point the fully managed Cloud Run can connect to the VPC and also support web sockets.
Hi, I am a PM on Cloud Run. Thanks for the feedback. VPC connectivity is literally at the top of our roadmap.
For web sockets, this requires substantial infrastructure changes. In the meantime, we recommend Cloud Run for Anthos, which supports web sockets.
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#5I think it's interesting that this isn't being presented as the direct successor to Google Cloud Functions.
When would someone pick GCF over Cloud Run at this point?
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#6I think it's interesting that this isn't being presented as the direct successor to Google Cloud Functions. When would someone pick GCF over Cloud Run at this point?
I work for Google but not Cloud.
From what I understand they serve different needs. One is deployment at the container level and the other is at the functions level. Both use HTTP as the communication layer. Depending on your workload there are good reasons to choose either.
Re: Cloud Run, a Managed Knative Service, Is GA
#7I think it's interesting that this isn't being presented as the direct successor to Google Cloud Functions. When would someone pick GCF over Cloud Run at this point?
Sounds like an AWS Fargate equivalent vs an AWS Lambda equivalent
Re: Cloud Run, a Managed Knative Service, Is GA
#8I hope at some point the fully managed Cloud Run can connect to the VPC and also support web sockets.
Hi, I am a PM on Cloud Run. Thanks for the feedback. VPC connectivity is literally at the top of our roadmap. For web sockets, this requires substantial infrastructure changes. In the meantime, we recommend Cloud Run for Anthos, which supports web sockets.
> we recommend Cloud Run for Anthos
Cool. Can you please tell us how to setup Anthos? From an availability perspective, it is "Contact Sales" vaporware.
Re: Cloud Run, a Managed Knative Service, Is GA
#9I think it's interesting that this isn't being presented as the direct successor to Google Cloud Functions. When would someone pick GCF over Cloud Run at this point?
Product Manager for Cloud Run for Anthos here.
This is a great question -- thanks for asking.
GCF provides a different experience where you provide just snippets of code and you don't have to even build a full app. Of course, this has pros and cons. The pros are that it's easier to get started, and the service manages things like language runtimes for you. But, the number of languages is usually limited, and you can't customize the OS packages you're including.
In Cloud Run, you provide an entire container. But, this means you're responsible for the contents of the container, which means you have to roll out updates if there there is a security issue for a language.
The two products actually run on the same underlying infrastructure. And, with the open source JavaScript functions framework, you can have a GCF-like experience on Cloud Run. https://cloud.google.com/functions/docs/functions-framework
This was actually the subject of a talk I did last month at ServerlessConf (containers vs. functions), but unfortunately the video hasn't been posted yet. (It'll be posted at https://acloud.guru/series/serverlessconf-nyc-2019.)
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hi, I am a PM on Cloud Run. Thanks for the feedback. VPC connectivity is literally at the top of our roadmap. For web sockets, this requires substantial infrastructure changes. In the meantime, we recommend Cloud Run for Anthos, which supports web sockets.
> we recommend Cloud Run for Anthos Cool. Can you please tell us how to setup Anthos? From an availability perspective, it is "Contact Sales" vaporware.
Product Manager for Cloud Run for Anthos here.
You can currently use Cloud Run for Anthos with no additional charge beyond GKE until May 2020. After that, you'd need an Anthos subscription to continue using the product.
I agree that it's frustrating that you have to contact sales to sign up. We're working to make this self-serve in the future -- Anthos hasn't been available for very long, and we plan to make substantial improvements here.