Decriminalize Psychedelic Plants and Fungi in San Francisco
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#2Why stop at plants? If someone chooses to take whatever substance it's no one else's business (unless others have to pay for the medical treatment afterwards... but that is easily solved by NOT making others pay). The actually dangerous drugs - the ones (SSRIs, notably) which have suicide as a side effect, sometimes resulting in people going on murderous rampages - are quite legal and widely prescribed. Go figure.
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#3I had to vouch averros and I can't reply to him, great. Decriminalize all drugs.
Cheese + SSRI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin_syndrome
Grapefruit + SSRI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grapefruit%E2%80%93drug_intera...
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#4SF has enough druggies already.
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#5The DEA Scheduling system is not fact-based and needs to be completely redone. In fact, the categorizations are provably false e.g. PCP is schedule II, Cocaine is schedule III, Xanax is Schedule IV etc, while Marijuana and Psilocybin (mushrooms) are Schedule I.
Yes that's right, according to the federal government, marijuana and mushrooms are more harmful, more addictive, and have less medical use than PCP, Cocaine, or Xanax.
Re: Decriminalize Psychedelic Plants and Fungi in San Francisco
#6Why stop at plants? If someone chooses to take whatever substance it's no one else's business (unless others have to pay for the medical treatment afterwards... but that is easily solved by NOT making others pay). The actually dangerous drugs - the ones (SSRIs, notably) which have suicide as a side effect, sometimes resulting in people going on murderous rampages - are quite legal and widely prescribed. Go figure.
How do you stop paying for medical outcomes? And why should we care?
As part of insurance pools, today I pay for extreme sports injuries, alcohol and tobacco related chronic problems, outright stupidity, and obesity related issues.
No one seems to balk at that; why should THC or magic mushrooms be fundamentally different? Even if they “should” be, how could they be?
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#7I had to vouch averros and I can't reply to him, great. Decriminalize all drugs. Cheese + SSRI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin_syndrome Grapefruit + SSRI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grapefruit%E2%80%93drug_intera...
Are you thinking of cheese+MAOIs?
Because SSRIs aren't known for having that interaction with fermented products at any dose I've seen.
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#8The DEA Scheduling system is not fact-based and needs to be completely redone. In fact, the categorizations are provably false e.g. PCP is schedule II, Cocaine is schedule III, Xanax is Schedule IV etc, while Marijuana and Psilocybin (mushrooms) are Schedule I. Yes that's right, according to the federal government, marijuana and mushrooms are more harmful, more addictive, and have less medical use than PCP, Cocaine,…
PCP was a general anesthetic, cocaine is still a local anesthetic used humorously enough for rhinoplasty [1] (and eye surgery if I’m not mistaken) and Xanax is an antidepressant so by that strict measure there’s some logic.
With that in mind it’s a completely asinine system and should be thrown out. It’s such an utter waste of time when Portugal’s policy of decriminalizing everything a decade and a half ago showed massive public benefit and no increase in drug use. [2]
Nothing about the war on drugs is “fact based.” This whole conversation is about re-shuffling the deck chairs when we should be getting off the Titanic.
[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/9935273/
[2] https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/dec/05/portugals-radic...
Re: Decriminalize Psychedelic Plants and Fungi in San Francisco
#9The DEA Scheduling system is not fact-based and needs to be completely redone. In fact, the categorizations are provably false e.g. PCP is schedule II, Cocaine is schedule III, Xanax is Schedule IV etc, while Marijuana and Psilocybin (mushrooms) are Schedule I. Yes that's right, according to the federal government, marijuana and mushrooms are more harmful, more addictive, and have less medical use than PCP, Cocaine,…
Cocaine is Schedule II, actually. While it can be used as a topical anesthetic, I don't think it is especially common anymore.
Xanax has significant medical use supported by actual studies. (Yes, it's kind of a problem that the Federal government essentially blocks studies of many substances.) There's not a lot of real distinction between schedules III-V other than "less potential for abuse than the last one" (per DEA, not any science). Schedule II is nominally "high potential for abuse," like Schedule I.
> The DEA Scheduling system is not fact-based and needs to be completely redone.
Yes, current scheduling is absurd and not based in evidence.
I don't really agree with the policy that drugs must have medical value to be legal (which is enshrined in the distinction between Schedule I and II as they are today); it's certainly hard to reconcile with the legal status of (potable) alcohol or tobacco, which have more or less negative medical value.
Re: Decriminalize Psychedelic Plants and Fungi in San Francisco
#10The DEA Scheduling system is not fact-based and needs to be completely redone. In fact, the categorizations are provably false e.g. PCP is schedule II, Cocaine is schedule III, Xanax is Schedule IV etc, while Marijuana and Psilocybin (mushrooms) are Schedule I. Yes that's right, according to the federal government, marijuana and mushrooms are more harmful, more addictive, and have less medical use than PCP, Cocaine,…
PCP was a general anesthetic, cocaine is still a local anesthetic used humorously enough for rhinoplasty [1] (and eye surgery if I’m not mistaken) and Xanax is an antidepressant so by that strict measure there’s some logic. With that in mind it’s a completely asinine system and should be thrown out. It’s such an utter waste of time when Portugal’s policy of decriminalizing everything a decade and a half ago showed ma…
Xanax is not an antidepressant, it is a sedative-hypnotic.